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AI is a horse (2024)

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Re: AI is a horse (2024)

#102

Horses have some semblance of self preservation and awareness of danger - see: jumping. LLMs do not have that at all so the analogy fails. My term of “Automation Improved” is far more relevant and descriptive in current state of the art deployments. Same phone / text logic trees, next level macro-type agent work, none of it is free range. Horses can survive on their own. AI is a task helper, no more.

>LLMs do not have that at all so the analogy fails.

I somewhat disagree with this. AI doesn't have to worry about any kind of physical danger to itself, so it's not going to have any evolutionary function around that. If the linked Reddit thread is to be believed AI does have awareness of information hazards and attempts to rationalize around them.

https://old.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/1qjx26b/gemini...

>Horses can survive on their own.

Eh, this is getting pretty close to a type of binary thinking that breaks down under scrutiny. If, for example, we take any kind of selectively bred animal that requires human care for it's continued survival, does this somehow make said animal "improved automation"?

Re: AI is a horse (2024)

#105
post #85

I see AI as an awesome technology, but also a like programming roulette. It could go and do the task perfectly as instructed, or it could do something completely different that you haven't asked for and destroy everything in its path in the process. I personally found that if you don't give it write access to anything that you can't easily restore and you review and commit code often it saves me a lot of time. It als…

The safety practices you describe are basically the right mental model: assume it's fallible, keep writes reversible, review everything, commit often

Re: AI is a horse (2024)

#106
post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The irony with the chess example is that chess has never been more popular. Perhaps we're about to experience yet another renaissance of computer languages.

I know chess is popular because I have a friend who's enthusiastic about it and plays online regularly. But I'm out of the loop: in order to maintain popularity, are computers banned? And if so, how is this enforced, both at the serious and at the "troll cheating" level? (I suppose for casual play, matchmaking takes care of this: if someone is playing at superhuman level due to cheating, you're never going to be matc…

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Re: AI is a horse (2024)

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post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The irony with the chess example is that chess has never been more popular. Perhaps we're about to experience yet another renaissance of computer languages.

I know chess is popular because I have a friend who's enthusiastic about it and plays online regularly. But I'm out of the loop: in order to maintain popularity, are computers banned? And if so, how is this enforced, both at the serious and at the "troll cheating" level? (I suppose for casual play, matchmaking takes care of this: if someone is playing at superhuman level due to cheating, you're never going to be matc…

> But I'm out of the loop: in order to maintain popularity, are computers banned?

Firsrly, yes, you will be banned for playing at an AI level consecutively on most platforms. Secondly, its not very relevant to the concept of gaming. Sure it can make it logistically hard to facilitate, but this has plagued gaming through cheats/hacks since antiquity, and AI can actually help here too. Its simply a cat and mouse game and gamers covet the competitive spirit too much to give in.

Re: AI is a horse (2024)

#108
post #35

A horse that can do your homework.

Yeah, well... not really. I used to tell my Into-to-Programming-in-C course students, 20 years ago, that they could in principle skip one or two of the homework assignments; and that some students even manage to outsmart us and submit copied work as homework, but - they would just not become able to program if they don't do their homework themselves. "If you want to be able to write software code you have to exercise…

To become a programmer you must write code.

To become upper management, just steal other peoples work.

Re: AI is a horse (2024)

#109

Maybe from the client's point of view, although it's more likely a Tamagotchi. But from the server side, it’s more like a whole hippodrome where you need to support horse racing 24/7

It's a nice reminder that most metaphors break unless you ask whose perspective they're describing

Re: AI is a horse (2024)

#110
post #93

AI is a horse indeed - eats creative works by humans and transforms them into a steaming pile of… output tokens.

A badly ridden horse mostly produces manure. A well-ridden one gets you somewhere

Ah yes, must be a skill issue. Or I forgot to drink my coolaid this morning.
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