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Targeted Bets: An alternative approach to the job hunt

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Re: Targeted Bets: An alternative approach to the job hunt

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FWIW one of the things about advice on job hunting (and a lot of other things in life tbh) is that no one ever seems to acknowledge that, more often than we like to think, it's just luck. Yes reaching out to your network is good, putting yourself out there through direct contact where possible is good (early in my career two jobs which were real stepping stones came from emailing a head of and ceo directly after a co…

Luck plays a big role, but it is not just luck. One can apply in a way that significantly stacks the deck in his favor. So absolutely reach out to your network, study the current market and find your edge. It might still be poker-style games which you can still lose because of luck; but doing that gives you starting hands with two aces. My 2c.

Yeah for sure. "Just luck" is a bit too glib from me.

Noticed a typo in my original post; my last point is about how different things are when you do have a job vs you don't have a job. Money, not even a lot but enough to stop you hemorrhaging out, offers a lot of freedom to be quite tactical in a way that does help things in your favour.

But it's different when that isn't the case and i think people underestimate the mental load that takes and how detrimental it is to necessarily bringing your best self if you do land an interview. Its always easier when you have some of that comfort which is why sometimes I think just landing something, preferably within your long-term field, rather than necessarily being very particular can make sense.

Re: Targeted Bets: An alternative approach to the job hunt

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1 sell everything. 2 turn 18. 3 move to highest gdp location, capital city, largest city, that you can get to, or that your chosen industry, if you have one, is focused in. 4 make list of growing companies. 5 apply to growing companies. Simple, yet so few will actually do this.

1)I need things, unless you want a naked homeless woman without a laptop to apply to your startup 2)Great, still have no job experience or degree 3)I sell everything and show up to the valley naked. I'm suddenly homeless looking for a job in a place where I have no connections, no degree, and no laptop to actually apply for a job or do remote gigs 4)AI startups number 1-4 are doomed to fail, 5 and 6 expect me to work…

> expect me to work 12 hour days with little pay and no benefits

This is not how it should be, but sometimes when you have no other opportunities this is what you need to do to open doors.

Capitalism is vicious and not participating because you (rightfully) find it demeaning is your prerogative, but it is also poor local optimization.

I joined the military and walked with PTSD not because I’m a patriot but because I needed to pay for college. I got out and took an internship well below the poverty line. I turned that into an entry level job, climbed the ladder to build a cushion. Started several side businesses trying to improve my lot. One was successful enough now I can live a comfortable life.

The world sucks but you’ll be eaten alive if you wait for it to become fair. Some obstacles are stepping stones.

Re: Targeted Bets: An alternative approach to the job hunt

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1)I need things, unless you want a naked homeless woman without a laptop to apply to your startup 2)Great, still have no job experience or degree 3)I sell everything and show up to the valley naked. I'm suddenly homeless looking for a job in a place where I have no connections, no degree, and no laptop to actually apply for a job or do remote gigs 4)AI startups number 1-4 are doomed to fail, 5 and 6 expect me to work…

> expect me to work 12 hour days with little pay and no benefits This is not how it should be, but sometimes when you have no other opportunities this is what you need to do to open doors. Capitalism is vicious and not participating because you (rightfully) find it demeaning is your prerogative, but it is also poor local optimization. I joined the military and walked with PTSD not because I’m a patriot but because I…

I don't disagree, it's just that in the context of the parent it isn't worth it

Re: Targeted Bets: An alternative approach to the job hunt

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I had a really nice job hunt this time around because: - I quit my job to work on a side project in a specific space (voice AI for me). - Spent three months shipping a few things and sinking into the area. - Apply to jobs in that space, custom cover letter if applicable. - Reach out directly to hiring people/engineers on LinkedIn for those companies, if it is engineers I usually say things like "did you also struggle…

What did you put on your resume for that time period? “Sabbatical”?

Re: Targeted Bets: An alternative approach to the job hunt

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I generally do not agree with this advice (or you can do both, cold emailing folks should not prevent you from cold applying to other jobs). It really just hinges on what you think your probability increase is relative to the amount of time you spend, https://crimede-coder.com/news/Post004.

Re: Targeted Bets: An alternative approach to the job hunt

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> Instead of applying broadly, identify 5-10 specific opportunities you genuinely want. Do that. >Get in contact with current employees at the company. It is important that you send more than one email. Don't do that. >I've gotten dozens of emails asking for meetings and referrals. I've never gotten one in my entire career, and I was hiring manager in multiple companies/roles. >If the company is Don't never ever EVER…

Oh, I get them all the time. Usually from junior engineers. I don't hold it against them - it's good advice. So, what's your trick to avoid getting skipped because a contract recruiter or internal recruiter is going through resumes at 6 a minute and looking for keywords nowhere near the job profile? What's your trick to get through the noise? Right now, it's brutal from junior to staff, and if your network isn't hiri…

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Re: Targeted Bets: An alternative approach to the job hunt

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I also regularly get cold emails from candidates. Most often for marketing roles, rarely for technical roles. Cold emailing definitely wont hurt your chances at the job. But to be effective, the outreach needs to be heavily tailored and personalized. You need to make it obvious you aren’t copy and pasting the email to 20 other people.

Would you actually hire a candidate from a cold email? I did it when I was in undergrad looking for research experience. But for professional level jobs it seems so presumptuous considering how you cost 10 or 20x more than an undergraduate on work study.

You certainly wouldn't hire someone from a cold email. But if they seem like they're the kind of person who's smart and gets things done, you can certainly get them into the process.

The purpose of these emails is just go get you in the door. From there, you gotta interview well.

Re: Targeted Bets: An alternative approach to the job hunt

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I also regularly get cold emails from candidates. Most often for marketing roles, rarely for technical roles. Cold emailing definitely wont hurt your chances at the job. But to be effective, the outreach needs to be heavily tailored and personalized. You need to make it obvious you aren’t copy and pasting the email to 20 other people.

Would you actually hire a candidate from a cold email? I did it when I was in undergrad looking for research experience. But for professional level jobs it seems so presumptuous considering how you cost 10 or 20x more than an undergraduate on work study.

Why wouldn't someone ?

Re: Targeted Bets: An alternative approach to the job hunt

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> HR are idiots most of the time. HR, like real estate, has also very low entrance requirements Soft skills are the most important. Calling a group of people you work with idiots because their role has a low barrier to entry reflects badly on you. Bad recruiters are beyond useless but a good one can read a resume, match it to the JD, learn what the hiring manager is looking for (do they keep saying no to people with…

"Soft skills are the most important. Calling a group of people you work with idiots because their role has a low barrier to entry reflects badly on you" Simple mathematics. There are close to zero entrance requirements to HR or Real Estate. Now compare this to a professor at a decent University. Has to get a HS Diploma, Bachelors degree, PhD, Post Doc, publications. While there may be idiots, it is much harder to bec…

lol if you feel that high competitive fields have less idiots on average. Regardless not a good take, world is not mathematics, there are many axis to people

Re: Targeted Bets: An alternative approach to the job hunt

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post #109

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"Soft skills are the most important. Calling a group of people you work with idiots because their role has a low barrier to entry reflects badly on you" Simple mathematics. There are close to zero entrance requirements to HR or Real Estate. Now compare this to a professor at a decent University. Has to get a HS Diploma, Bachelors degree, PhD, Post Doc, publications. While there may be idiots, it is much harder to bec…

lol if you feel that high competitive fields have less idiots on average. Regardless not a good take, world is not mathematics, there are many axis to people

I am not sure if I like your wording. "high competitive fields" Yes, becoming a professor at a decent university if highly competitive. But so is real estate. The problem: in real estate you have the idiots playing in the field.
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