This is why you should not go to a therapist who uses electronic records. This will happen to you at some point.
i guess you should never use banks that use “electronics” either, right? just cash and paper records?
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The 'untouchable hacker god' behind Finland's biggest crime
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Re: The 'untouchable hacker god' behind Finland's biggest crime
#102"the patient records database was accessible via the internet; there was no firewall and, perhaps most egregiously, it was secured with a blank password, so anyone could just press enter and open it" There _should_ be a bunch of people in jail for that. Including, but not limited to the CEO. It should also include all the people on the org chart between whoever set that database up and the CEO.
Still reading the story but just hit that line and came here to snarkily post, “another MongoDB success story”. I should probably talk to my therapist about this desire to be seen as funny.
Having now read it, the CEO did get convicted.
Re: The 'untouchable hacker god' behind Finland's biggest crime
#103Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well, not for public bodies at least: “ Administrative fines cannot be imposed on public organisations, such as the government or state-owned companies, municipalities and parishes” [1] But luckily this sort of thing never happens in the public sector. Except for when it does: https://yle.fi/a/74-20094950 [1] https://tietosuoja.fi/en/corrective-powers
That's interesting, because if you go here https://www.enforcementtracker.com/ there are a lot of public institutions being hit with fines (if they are enforced it's another issue) - search for Municipality for example However I don't see any municipality in Finland getting fines
Indeed, but 'the EU' isn't the one enforcing it or leveraging fines - it's up to national bodies/governments and law enforcement.
From that link we can see that the UK fined its own Ministry of Defence 400,000 EUR.
However it appears that Finish public bodies are deemed above reproach by their government.
Re: The 'untouchable hacker god' behind Finland's biggest crime
#104Julius Kivimäki was released pending the outcome of his appeal.
https://www.bankinfosecurity.com/finnish-vastaamo-hacker-fre...
The article cites "Ryan" as one of his aliases, so the id ryanlol commenting in this thread could plausibly be Kivimäki.
Re: The 'untouchable hacker god' behind Finland's biggest crime
#105"the patient records database was accessible via the internet; there was no firewall and, perhaps most egregiously, it was secured with a blank password, so anyone could just press enter and open it" There _should_ be a bunch of people in jail for that. Including, but not limited to the CEO. It should also include all the people on the org chart between whoever set that database up and the CEO.
Exactly, was it a burglary when your front door is open, lights on, spotlights on your wall safe, with the keys still inserted? The CEO should be in prison.
Yes. Similarly, If I leave my car unlocked with the keys in the ignition, and someone takes it is still a crime. It might be unwise to do that (depending on where you are), but nonetheless it is still crime.
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#106Earlier quoted context omitted.
Funny whenever people complain about the GDPR here they're thinking they would be slapped with a €20Mi fine and that EU team 6 is going to parachute in their office and arrest everyone So they're saying this is not the case?
The law is written such that they could do all that to a small family business that forgot to delete their Apache logs, which isn't good and leaves room for abuse even if they pinkie swear it's only meant for big violations.
Reading the words and interpreting the law in its wider legal context are two different things
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#107Earlier quoted context omitted.
>Exactly, was it a burglary when your front door is open Legally speaking, yes in every place I've ever lived if all those things are the case it's still a burglary, although the cops may call the victim an idiot.
In the UK, there is no crime "burglary". "Breaking and entering" it's a criminal offence, and walking through an unlocked front door back door doesn't count. If you are on someone's land but didn't have to break in then that's trespass, which is just a civil offense. Theft is a crime in any case (indeed even if you're not on their land e.g. snatching a phone off the street).
> In the UK, there is no crime "burglary".
Yes there is:
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1968/60/section/9
https://www.college.police.uk/guidance/residential-burglary/...
> "Breaking and entering" it's a criminal offence, and walking through an unlocked front door back door doesn't count.
No breaking and entering is known as burglary. Also if you walk through the front door with the intent to commit a crime it is still burglary. The important part is trespassing with the intent to commit a crime.
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#108Earlier quoted context omitted.
Someone presented a hypothetical scenario: What if a hacker would write a virus, which breached a totally unprotected database after the hacker has passed away. It's clear that the therapy provider is at least partially responsible.
Posthumous crime is the ultimate because the legal system is all about punishing the living until they are dead.
In a retributive just culture, yes.
https://www.patientsafety.com/en/blog/human-error-retributiv...
Re: The 'untouchable hacker god' behind Finland's biggest crime
#109Earlier quoted context omitted.
In the UK, there is no crime "burglary". "Breaking and entering" it's a criminal offence, and walking through an unlocked front door back door doesn't count. If you are on someone's land but didn't have to break in then that's trespass, which is just a civil offense. Theft is a crime in any case (indeed even if you're not on their land e.g. snatching a phone off the street).
OK, I probably should specify closer, but while the other commenter has noted there is "burglary" in the UK, I was using burglary in the vernacular, meaning you entered someone's house without their knowledge and stole some shit. I was perhaps unclear with this and in fact in some places what entering someone's house that is not locked and stealing some shit may be a different crime than when it is locked both variat…
The comment you are replying to has no idea what they are talking about.
Burglary is defined in the Theft Act 1968:
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1968/60/section/9
The door can be wide open. The important parts are you are trespassing with the intent to commit a crime.
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#110Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's in the article. Not sure it had his name, but certainly his family name since he looked for records concerning his relatives.
The queries appear to have been looking for me specifically, filtering by date of birth. That wouldn't be a good way to find my relatives.
Damn, some other group trying to cause trouble for you?