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San Francisco to offer free childcare to people making up to $230k

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Re: San Francisco to offer free childcare to people making up to $230k

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post #37

We have 30 hours of free childcare in the UK (for nursery, schooling in older years is free) if both parents are working and neither earn more than £100k. It has the interesting impact that a salary of £99.9k is worth more to me than £130k, give or take some extra contributions to pension. It’s interesting to me that the threshold is so much higher in San Francisco given that SF is only 8.7% more expensive than Londo…

I reduced my hours at job, working only 4 days just to not hit it.

Re: San Francisco to offer free childcare to people making up to $230k

#102
post #37

We have 30 hours of free childcare in the UK (for nursery, schooling in older years is free) if both parents are working and neither earn more than £100k. It has the interesting impact that a salary of £99.9k is worth more to me than £130k, give or take some extra contributions to pension. It’s interesting to me that the threshold is so much higher in San Francisco given that SF is only 8.7% more expensive than Londo…

> Maybe healthcare makes up some of that difference?

No, you’re missing the insane scale of Silicon Valley tech salaries. See levels.fyi and filter by 5 years of experience in San Francisco.

If the city made the threshold 100k or 110k, I bet there would be zero children in the city born to parents making less than that.

Re: San Francisco to offer free childcare to people making up to $230k

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post #37

We have 30 hours of free childcare in the UK (for nursery, schooling in older years is free) if both parents are working and neither earn more than £100k. It has the interesting impact that a salary of £99.9k is worth more to me than £130k, give or take some extra contributions to pension. It’s interesting to me that the threshold is so much higher in San Francisco given that SF is only 8.7% more expensive than Londo…

This is a whole family threshold rather than individual parent threshold, making the combined total lower.

A combined threshold of £200k (or whatever this converts to) would be great for me in London since my partner earns roughly the median salary (which is a lot lower).

Re: San Francisco to offer free childcare to people making up to $230k

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post #51

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I suspect that the policy is popular with the 90% of voters in the UK who earn less than £80k and that politicians are not very concerned with the ambitions of the rest of us (frustrating as that is when paying London rent).

To me it appears as though the success of the right wing politics everywhere is that they made socioeconomically disadvantaged people identify other socioeconomically disadvantaged people and the middle-class as the cause of their suffering while somehow becoming sympathetic to the uber rich in hopes to one day belong. And to me it’s clear that if we taxed wealth and high incomes fairly and removed the loopholes to l…

To be fair to the conversatives in the UK who have engineered this situation, some have recently said that the £100k threshold is too low. I detest them but I have to give them this.

Re: San Francisco to offer free childcare to people making up to $230k

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post #104

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That’s generally how good governments work yes.

At some point you run out of other people’s money and have bread lines.

So far it looks like we're going to run out of people first.

Re: San Francisco to offer free childcare to people making up to $230k

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post #92

In a lot of 3rd world and less well off countries, childcare is done by the grandparents(mostly grandmothers), I'm always surprised why this isn't true in the west. Here we have an aging population, so grandparent/grandchild ratio should be very high.

Is it common for women to work in those countries? What I'm seeing here in Europe is that mothers are working, so when they have grandchildren they are either still working or retired. If they're working, they don't have time to do childcare. If they're retired, they are either worn out and don't have the energy/physical ability to do childcare, or they just want to enjoy the few years of freedom they have. So grandp…

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Re: San Francisco to offer free childcare to people making up to $230k

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post #80

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"by American standards" is doing a lot of lifting. On a scale of 1 to 10 I'd give SF about a 4 compared to cities like Tokyo, Paris, Berlin, London, Amsterdam, Seoul, Singapore, ...

Caltrain is no slouch - punctual, clean, safe, really good wifi, electric.

That is the baseline, not a high bar.

Re: San Francisco to offer free childcare to people making up to $230k

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post #98

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Am i missing the joke? ChatGPT tells me 3% of 100 is 3, not 0.18.

Off topic: what are you trying to signal by saying chatgpt helped you with arithmetic here? Is it supposed to give more weight to what you are saying?

I read it as a side joke about how people overuse chtgpt for trivial tasks
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