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So, you’ve hit an age gate. What now?

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Re: So, you’ve hit an age gate. What now?

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I’ve noticed that many people struggle to simply let things go. Take a hypothetical case where HN requires ID verification. I'd just stop using HN, even if that meant giving up checking tech news. Sometimes things end, and that's fine. I used to watch good soccer matches on public TV. When services like DAZN appeared, only one major match was available each weekend on public TV. Later, none were free to watch unless…

> I’ve noticed that many people struggle to simply let things go

Because it's not always about their entertainment. I know churches that post info about events only on WhatsApp groups, if you don't use it - you're screwed. I know kindergardens which use Facebook Messenger groups to send announcements to their parents' children - if you don't use it, you will miss important info.

For most people, letting go such things is very impractical. One can try to persuade for a better way to do something - but then you become the problem.

Re: So, you’ve hit an age gate. What now?

#102

My kid has recently just quit playing Roblox because of the sketchy facial age check process. She said that her and all her friends know not to ever upload a picture of themselves to the Internet (good job, fellow Other Parents!!) so they're either moving on to other games or just downloading stock photos of people from the internet and uploading those (which apparently works). What a total joke. These companies need…

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>and this seems like it might prevent that

sorry but we're on the internet. You can type the literal words 'hardcore pornography' into any search engine of your choice and find about fifteen million bootleg porn sites hosted on some micro-nation that don't care about your age verification.

In fact ironically, this will almost certainly drive people to websites that host anything.

Re: So, you’ve hit an age gate. What now?

#103

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> combined with studies showing there is zero safe threshold without brain damage markers in the blood? Are you saying that there's zero safe threshold of choking, or for viewing porn? (To be clear, choking someone without consent is assault and unacceptable, whether a blood test shows damage or not.)

A. There is zero safe threshold for choking.

B. Choking is inherently, obviously, dangerous.

C. Pornography has caused choking behaviors among youth to go from negligible to over 38%.

D. Brain damage is measurable in anyone who has been choked.

E. As such, pornography does, in fact, have blame for encouraging this kind of experimentation.

F. If "fighting words" and "misinformation" shouldn't be free speech, who is to say pornography does not incite risk, when other things can?

Re: So, you’ve hit an age gate. What now?

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They definitely already have your face though…

From where? Not everyone even puts selfies on the Internet.

Honestly, it's probably already happening, but I would not be surprised if retail stores that check your ID also have cameras snaping your face and selling that to data brokers.

Anything you can image that is bad with privacy, figure what is occurring is far worse.

Re: So, you’ve hit an age gate. What now?

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These things are integrated into the authentication systems of these services. They aren't implemented client side. Refusing to engage with them means you cannot use the service.

Then it wasn't meant to be. Let it go.

Fun and games until your government makes getting access to the internet at all work that way.

Re: So, you’ve hit an age gate. What now?

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What evidence led you to believe this, when controlling for heritability?

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> Before the widespread adoption of pornography, this rate was near 0%.

Big giant citation needed on that one. How would it ever have been near 0%?

First, I’d like to point out that we don’t make other media illegal or age gated with privacy-compromising tactics because it depicts harmful things. There’s no age verification gate for watching movies and TV that depict murder and other serious crimes. You can watch Gaston drink beer and fall to his death and the Beast bleed in a kids movie rated G.

Watching NFL football, boxing, and UFC fighting isn’t illegal even those sports conclusively cause brain damage.

Pornography is singled out because it’s taboo and for no other reason. People won’t politically defend it because nobody can publicly admit that they like watching it, even though most people consume it.

Over 90% of men and over 60% of women in the last month. [1]

Second, what I see missing from your links is really solid studied link to an increase in choking injuries directly caused by changes in pornography trends and viewership. Were these kinks just underreported in the past? Heck, I read 4 of your linked articles and none of them actually compared the rate of choking injury over time, they just sort of pointed it out as something that exists and jumped to blaming pornography.

I am perfectly willing to accept your hypothesis but I don’t think we’ve been anywhere near scientific enough about evaluating it, and even if that was the case, we don’t really treat pornography the same as other media just like I mentioned.

We need a lot more information. Personally, I think there’s nothing wrong with sexual pleasure and believe it’s stigmatized way too much. I also believe that normalizing sexual pleasure helps people talk about consent and avoids issues like doing a sexual act when you don’t enjoy it.

[1] https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30358432/

Re: So, you’ve hit an age gate. What now?

#108

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These things are integrated into the authentication systems of these services. They aren't implemented client side. Refusing to engage with them means you cannot use the service.

Then it wasn't meant to be. Let it go.

The problem there is when it's inescapable, on every site.

Re: So, you’ve hit an age gate. What now?

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What evidence led you to believe this, when controlling for heritability?

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> Before the widespread adoption of pornography, this rate was near 0%

Bullshit. Men and women have been dying of autoerotic asphyxiation long before the internet. And we only hear about the ones that fuck up badly enough to make the news.

I'm puzzled by this phenomenon myself, but there is apparently a significant minority of women who enjoy getting choked in bed:

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s13178-025-01247-9

This doesn't excuse people who choke without consent, but there's something going on here waaaay more complex than "see it in porn, do it". Humans are weird.

Re: So, you’ve hit an age gate. What now?

#110

My kid has recently just quit playing Roblox because of the sketchy facial age check process. She said that her and all her friends know not to ever upload a picture of themselves to the Internet (good job, fellow Other Parents!!) so they're either moving on to other games or just downloading stock photos of people from the internet and uploading those (which apparently works). What a total joke. These companies need…

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Age verification on mainstream porn sites does absolutely zilch against teenagers accessing porn. There are countless other ways of obtaining porn. Even DDG with the safety off will provide plenty of it.
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