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SparkFun Officially Dropping AdaFruit due to CoC Violation

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Re: SparkFun Officially Dropping AdaFruit due to CoC Violation

#101

Post by dec0dedab0de »

CoastalCoder wrote: post #39
NetMageSCW wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What would you have them publish instead? Your curiosity does not overcome the right to privacy of those involved.

> Your curiosity does not overcome the right to privacy of those involved. I agree in principle, but is there an actual right to privacy in this instance? I'm asking this in the legal sense, not a moral sense.

There is no right to privacy, but they may have an NDA. Also, if they get too specific, they could open themselves up to a libel lawsuit. Though, if they were consulting a lawyer I don't think there would be any release. Simply cut business ties, and move on, it happens all the time, and would leave room to patch things up later.

Re: SparkFun Officially Dropping AdaFruit due to CoC Violation

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Post by calvinmorrison »

MaKey wrote: post #83
swed420 wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wouldn't be the first time CoC was used as a lame attempt to harm open source. Thanks for speaking up.

Overall I think Code of Conducts are a net negative. Alleged violations of them seem to be used to lend credibility to actions that otherwise would be hard(er) to justify.

This is nothing to do with Code of Conduct and just one business chosing not to do business with another.

Re: SparkFun Officially Dropping AdaFruit due to CoC Violation

#104

Post by Freak_NL »

ptorrone wrote: post #71
Y_Y wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you also been embargoed from buying shift keys?

speech to text, with a newborn, replying to these and feeding her. i cannot purchase shift keys if they are on sparkfun, yes.

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Re: SparkFun Officially Dropping AdaFruit due to CoC Violation

#105

Post by danesparza »

PurpleRamen wrote: post #23
NetMageSCW wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What would you have them publish instead? Your curiosity does not overcome the right to privacy of those involved.

> What would you have them publish instead? Is there any duty to publish anything? They could release nothing, or nothing with any details, if they have some obligation.

Yes, but Sparkfun didn't "release nothing", and now they are opening themselves up to a libel suit.

It would have been far better had they not published anything at this point.

Re: SparkFun Officially Dropping AdaFruit due to CoC Violation

#106

Post by Dangeranger »

827a wrote: post #51
ptorrone wrote: post #21

hi, phil here — post on adafruit here: https://blog.adafruit.com/2026/01/12/discontinuing-the-teens... i’ll stop back and answer anything (sparkfun will not?). sparkfun is the exclusive maker and distributor of the closed-source teensy and informed us we will not be able to purchase the teensy. this happened after i sent an email reporting the founder, nate, for multiple harassing actions directed at limor, including…

If it means anything, the first thought I had reading this post was "I wonder how SparkFun is exaggerating or misrepresenting this situation, because I can't believe Adafruit of all organizations is in the wrong here."

See additional context for the accusation(s) here[0].

[0] https://forum.pjrc.com/index.php?threads/open-source-teensy-...

Re: SparkFun Officially Dropping AdaFruit due to CoC Violation

#107

Post by danesparza »

dec0dedab0de wrote: post #101
CoastalCoder wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Your curiosity does not overcome the right to privacy of those involved. I agree in principle, but is there an actual right to privacy in this instance? I'm asking this in the legal sense, not a moral sense.

There is no right to privacy, but they may have an NDA. Also, if they get too specific, they could open themselves up to a libel lawsuit. Though, if they were consulting a lawyer I don't think there would be any release. Simply cut business ties, and move on, it happens all the time, and would leave room to patch things up later.

"they could open themselves up to a libel lawsuit."

They already have.

Re: SparkFun Officially Dropping AdaFruit due to CoC Violation

#108

Post by rafram »

alnwlsn wrote: post #88
ptorrone wrote: post #21

hi, phil here — post on adafruit here: https://blog.adafruit.com/2026/01/12/discontinuing-the-teens... i’ll stop back and answer anything (sparkfun will not?). sparkfun is the exclusive maker and distributor of the closed-source teensy and informed us we will not be able to purchase the teensy. this happened after i sent an email reporting the founder, nate, for multiple harassing actions directed at limor, including…

Why is your "open source Teensy" [0] just an RP2350 on a Teensy shaped board? In my book, what makes a Teensy a Teensy is 1) hardware support, like 600Mhz clock, CAN, FPU, RTC, other hardware peripherals which the RP2350 lacks and 2) software compatibility with Paul Stoffregen's well documented Teensyduino libraries. I would not buy something else if I needed these features. Do you plan to do a port? Why not build ar…

It looks like it's just a set of bullet points on a forum thread, not anything like a final design, so go post that comment there.

Re: SparkFun Officially Dropping AdaFruit due to CoC Violation

#109

Post by calvinmorrison »

The only thing this public dispute tells me is I should never do business with either organization. What is with childish adults dragging "drama" into the public spotlight? What is a "Code of Conduct".

I would have privately let them know we arent going to supply them anymore and wish them the best. That's it.

Public drama is DISGUSTING!

Re: SparkFun Officially Dropping AdaFruit due to CoC Violation

#110

Post by bluGill »

beeforpork wrote: post #41
cogman10 wrote: post #9

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> Why publish this publicly? I'm guessing to get ahead of any sort of speculation on why Sparkfun stops carrying their products? Perhaps also to get ahead of Adafruit publishing a similar public statement with more/conflicting details?

Hmm, but the accusations are so vague that it's going to be even more speculation, don't you think?

There is no such thing as bad publicity...
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