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Anthropic made a mistake in cutting off third-party clients

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Re: Anthropic made a mistake in cutting off third-party clients

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Post by sergiotapia »

ojosilva wrote: post #28

They did not. Anthropic is protecting its huge asset: the Claude Code value chain, which has proven itself to be a winner among devs (me included, after trying everything under the sun in 2025). If anything, Anthropic's mistake is that they are incapable of monetizing their great models in the chat market, where ChatGPT reigns: ie. Anthropic did not invest in image generation, Google did and Gemini has a shot at the…

The model is the best.

The CLI tool is terrible compared to opencode.

That is the unfortunate reality, we are now being foisted claude code. :( I wish they just fork opencode.

Re: Anthropic made a mistake in cutting off third-party clients

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Post by pizlonator »

bloppe wrote: post #98
pizlonator wrote: post #90

It seems that Anthropic's thesis is that vertical integration wins. It's too soon to tell if that's true or not. One of the features of vertical integration is that there will be folks complaining about it. Like the way folks would complain that it's impossible or hard to install macOS on anything other than a Mac, and impossible or hard to install anything other than macOS on a Mac. Yet, despite those complains, the…

I, personally, will churn once my CC pro subscription is up. They're harshing my vibe. They're probably losing money on each pro subscription so they probably won't miss me!

> They're probably losing money on each pro subscription so they probably won't miss me!

looool

Maybe the LLM thing will be profitable some day?

Re: Anthropic made a mistake in cutting off third-party clients

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Post by cat-whisperer »

I don't think I agree with this claim. Also, they didn't cut-off anyone. You can still use their API as you wish. It's out there for anyone who wants it.

They simply stopped people from abusing a accessibility feature that they created for their own product.

Re: Anthropic made a mistake in cutting off third-party clients

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Post by anon84873628 »

pizlonator wrote: post #90

It seems that Anthropic's thesis is that vertical integration wins. It's too soon to tell if that's true or not. One of the features of vertical integration is that there will be folks complaining about it. Like the way folks would complain that it's impossible or hard to install macOS on anything other than a Mac, and impossible or hard to install anything other than macOS on a Mac. Yet, despite those complains, the…

Interestingly, another front page article today is about Apple choosing to use Gemini for Siri.

A lot of the comments revolve around how much they will be locked in and how much the base models are commoditized.

Google is pretty clearly ok with being an infrastructure/service provider for all comers. Same is true for Open AI (especially via Azure?) I guess Anthropic does not want to compete like that.

Re: Anthropic made a mistake in cutting off third-party clients

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Post by bloppe »

ojosilva wrote: post #28

They did not. Anthropic is protecting its huge asset: the Claude Code value chain, which has proven itself to be a winner among devs (me included, after trying everything under the sun in 2025). If anything, Anthropic's mistake is that they are incapable of monetizing their great models in the chat market, where ChatGPT reigns: ie. Anthropic did not invest in image generation, Google did and Gemini has a shot at the…

> Also Opencode makes it all easily swappable

It's all easily swappable without OpenCode. Just symlink CLAUDE.md -> AGENTS.md and run `codex` instead of `claude`.

> they are working hard on making it impossible for other models to support their every increasing agent feature set (skills, teleport and remote sessions, LSP, Chrome integration, etc).

Every feature you listed has an open-source MCP server implementation, which means every agent that supports MCP already has all those features. MCP is so epic because it has already nailed the commodification coffin firmly shut. Besides, Anthropic has way less funding than OAI or Google. They wouldn't win the moat-building race even if there were one.

That said, the conventional wisdom is that lowering switching costs benefits the underdogs, because the incumbents have more market share to lose.

Re: Anthropic made a mistake in cutting off third-party clients

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Post by gpm »

ojosilva wrote: post #28

They did not. Anthropic is protecting its huge asset: the Claude Code value chain, which has proven itself to be a winner among devs (me included, after trying everything under the sun in 2025). If anything, Anthropic's mistake is that they are incapable of monetizing their great models in the chat market, where ChatGPT reigns: ie. Anthropic did not invest in image generation, Google did and Gemini has a shot at the…

The problem the second you stop subsidizing Claude Code and start making money on it the incentive to use it over opencode disappears. If opencode is the better tool than claude code - and that's the reason people are using their claude subscription with it instead of claude code - people will end up switching to it.

Maybe they can hope to murder opencode in the meantime with predatory pricing and build an advantage that they don't currently have. It seems unlikely though - the fact that they're currently behind proves the barrier to building this sort of tool isn't that high, and there's lots of developers who build their own tooling for fun that you can't really starve out of doing that.

I'm not convinced that attempting to murder opencode is a mistake - if you're losing you might as well try desperate tactics. I think the attempt is a pretty clear signal that Antrhopic is losing though.

Re: Anthropic made a mistake in cutting off third-party clients

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Post by gpm »

cat-whisperer wrote: post #103

I don't think I agree with this claim. Also, they didn't cut-off anyone. You can still use their API as you wish. It's out there for anyone who wants it. They simply stopped people from abusing a accessibility feature that they created for their own product.

I'm not seeing how "subsidized pricing for their own product" is accessibility related.

Re: Anthropic made a mistake in cutting off third-party clients

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Post by gpm »

lemontheme wrote: post #72

Before this drama started, OpenCode was just another item on a long list of tools I've been meaning to test. I was 100% content with CC (still am, mostly). But it was nice to know that there were alternatives, and that I could try them, maybe even switch to them, without having to base my decision on token pricing. The idea of there being escape hatch made me less concerned about vendor lock-in and encouraged me to a…

I responded in a similar way. More than that I preemptively canceled my claude subscription (which just cancels auto-renewal) to make sure it was an affirmative choice to continue with it next month, after I have some time to try out the alternative they are so worried about and see if I should switch to it instead.

Re: Anthropic made a mistake in cutting off third-party clients

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Post by cmrdporcupine »

teiferer wrote: post #89
cmrdporcupine wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's fine, but it's still "make big giant plan then yeet the impl" at the end. It's still not appropriate for the kind of incremental, chunked, piecework that's needed in a shop that has a decent review cycle. It's irresponsible to your teammates to dump very large giant finished pieces of work on them for review. I try to impress that on my coworkers, and I don't appreciate getting code reviews like that for submiss…

> Which means basically learning everything this thing did I expect that from all my team mates, coworkers and reports. Submitting something for code review that they don't understand is unacceptable.

That was my point.
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