It's great we can bring them down. What a terrifying experience to have a medical issue on the space station. Kidney stone? Ruptured appendix? intestinal blockage? How could you keep calm so far away!
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Why the conspiracy theory?
NASA announces unprecedented return of sick ISS astronaut and crew
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#102AFAIK no one have died in space from medical issues yet. Only accidents.
Technically there has only been one fatal accident in space, the Soyuz 11 failure which killed the crew of three. That occurred above the Karman line, all other spaceflight related fatalities were at much lower altitudes or on the ground.
The other one that comes close is Columbia which broke up at around 60 km.
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#103It's great we can bring them down. What a terrifying experience to have a medical issue on the space station. Kidney stone? Ruptured appendix? intestinal blockage? How could you keep calm so far away!
whatever is the cause, it is not immediate - or they would've been on the ground couple days ago so no, not appendix
Pregnancy?
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#104Earlier quoted context omitted.
Maximum operating depth of a Nuclear submarine is 3,350 ft.
Source? The operating depth of most submarines is ~300 -- 500m (980 -- 1640 ft), roughly one-third to one-half the depth you cite. The two USN nuclear submarines lost due to pressure-hull failures, the Thresher (1963) and Scorpion (1968) both failed at depths of 1,200 to 2,000 ft. Threser 's test depth was 1,300 ft (400m), and she was operating at about this depth when communications were lost. Scorpion likely failed…
The Dolphin is on display at the Maritime Museum of San Diego.
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#105It's great we can bring them down. What a terrifying experience to have a medical issue on the space station. Kidney stone? Ruptured appendix? intestinal blockage? How could you keep calm so far away!
I used to work in ISS mission control, this is not an emergency return but an early return Also coming down on the Soyuz is pretty routine and only takes a few hours- I’d say it was overall a far less risky situation than being in Antarctic on a deep ocean vessel with appendicitis etc We have dozens and (hundreds behind them) of men and women monitoring those folks from a global network of control centers 24 hrs a da…
or on the way to Mars.
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You go first, then. Let’s see your full medical records without redaction if you think it’s a net benefit. I think there's value in reducing stigma around health conditions, but forcing poor people to reveal their medical conditions to the world isn't it.
I'm genuinely fine sharing my medical history, but I don't know if my lack of shame about e.g. testicular torsion, or the way that I lost my notes for a bit and unnecessarily got repeats of vaccines I'd already had, are a sign of being in possession of a boring medical history, or an indication of an uncommonly diminished shame response. Whatever it is, I am aware that my lack of concern here is something which makes…
The "I have nothing to hide" argument doesn't work for security, and it doesn't work for health care records either.
You might not have anything to hide now, but you might in the future. Someone you are closest to gets murdered or into a horrific violent accident right in front of you. Despite your best efforts this gives you crippling PTSD and you are committed involuntarily for a 72 hour hold. Now your future employer (legally or not) runs a quick records check and sees you have mental health concerns and really doesn't care about the context. Why roll the dice? Go with the candidate who was in a close 2nd and already a coin flip who doesn't have such a thing in their history.
Plenty of other scenarios that can happen to anyone even if they live the most perfect boring life imaginable and never do anything interesting ever. Plenty more for folks who step off the reservation of "acceptable social/corporate behavior" even a little bit.
Plus, if you want to protect folks like in your example of having an abortion on their record - you need to vehemently defend their right as a boring person yourself as that's the only way such individuals will ever be protected. It's like herd immunity but for privacy.
It's not about the people who have nothing to hide. It's about the people who do.
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#108Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is not honestly engaging with GP's statement. The benefit only accrues if the sharing is universal. I am too private a person to agree with GP, but it does seem that most health issues that are visible to the passerby or casual acquaintence are less stigmatized than the ones that can be hidden. There might be something to the idea. Of course you'd have to agree that de-stigmatizing is more socially important tha…
> The benefit only accrues if the sharing is universal. The GP's statement wasn't for universal sharing. It was to force recipients of taxpayer money to share their medical records. It's a gross demand: Force poor and old people to reveal their medical conditions to the world.
I was taking about everyone, so you are over confidently incorrect.
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#109Earlier quoted context omitted.
Maximum operating depth of a Nuclear submarine is 3,350 ft.
Source? The operating depth of most submarines is ~300 -- 500m (980 -- 1640 ft), roughly one-third to one-half the depth you cite. The two USN nuclear submarines lost due to pressure-hull failures, the Thresher (1963) and Scorpion (1968) both failed at depths of 1,200 to 2,000 ft. Threser 's test depth was 1,300 ft (400m), and she was operating at about this depth when communications were lost. Scorpion likely failed…
I like to imagine GP just accidentally leaked classified info.
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#110It's great we can bring them down. What a terrifying experience to have a medical issue on the space station. Kidney stone? Ruptured appendix? intestinal blockage? How could you keep calm so far away!
Astronauts are of a breed apart. They're strapped onto a literally bomb which launches them into a vacuum, and windows where there is no chance of a mission abort. They've pretty much accepted a risk of death that most would simply not tolerate. Ex-military is common for astronauts for a reason.
Not that it really changes the point but modern spacecraft do have an option to abort (begin returning to earth) at just about any time. There's still contingencies where that won't save you of course.