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Start your meetings at 5 minutes past

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Re: Start your meetings at 5 minutes past

#101
post #80

MIT does this. Every class starts 5 mins past, and also ends 5 mins early. We did this at Google too while I was there (only the started 5-mins past part). It works really well. No need to change the Calendar events though. It's just implicit that we'll start 5-mins past. (Or, well, explicit in MIT's case).

When I attended Lund University in Sweden, classes always started at 15 minutes past the hour, called "akademisk kvart" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academic_quarter_(class_timing...

Re: Start your meetings at 5 minutes past

#102
post #99

How about just be punctual, respecting the time others have agreed to meet with you? Simpler solution than what this article suggests. People will abuse that system just the same anyway.

How do you plan to show up on time if one of your meetings ends at 2pm, the next one starts at 2pm, the meeting rooms are 3 floors apart, and you need to go to the restroom because you've been in meetings since lunch and need to pee? You're going to clone yourself?

At the start of the first meeting, you annouce that you need to leave at 1:50 and ask the meeting to respect that.

Re: Start your meetings at 5 minutes past

#103
post #99

How about just be punctual, respecting the time others have agreed to meet with you? Simpler solution than what this article suggests. People will abuse that system just the same anyway.

How do you plan to show up on time if one of your meetings ends at 2pm, the next one starts at 2pm, the meeting rooms are 3 floors apart, and you need to go to the restroom because you've been in meetings since lunch and need to pee? You're going to clone yourself?

1:55 pm “I gotta run to my next meeting” and slip out the door.

Re: Start your meetings at 5 minutes past

#104
post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Individual Contributors - not managmenet

That almost sounds insulting. Like management is the only party with vision, drive and a goal and everybody else is just there to help. When often management just manages and true innovation really comes from people of all positions.

The term isn’t used to define everyone who isn’t a manager. It’s used to define people like Lead and Principle Engineers who are a subject matter expert, have influence in defining a project, but have chosen to continue in engineering roles rather than switching to management. Often their position in the company is parallel to the managers rather than subordinates, hence the “individual” part of the term.

ICs are generally considered highly valued staff.

Re: Start your meetings at 5 minutes past

#106
Where I work, we have company-wide breaks between 10.00-10.15, 12.00-13.00 and 15.00-15.15. These cannot easily be enforced with external parties, but running an internal meeting over a break will need an explanation. What I noticed is that back-to-back meetings are more likely "capped" at 2 hours, so it's easier for people to show up on time and energized.

Re: Start your meetings at 5 minutes past

#107

It's equally silly to the method my mom used for clock in the bathroom when I was a kid: she would set the clock to be 5 minutes later, so we would rush to get to school on time. Needless to say, I just learned to subtract 5 minutes from it and that was the end.

Can this be solved by a random clock? A clock which never tells you the real time - it adds randomly 1-10 mins every morning My question is if people can't adapt to it, would it be a helpful technique?

It would be interesting to experiment with providing people only with a sundial. :)))))

Re: Start your meetings at 5 minutes past

#109
post #6

We do this at my work and guess what - meetings tend to run 5 minutes late because everyone knows the next meeting doesn’t start until 5 past.

My org had the opposite problem in the Covid remote transition. At one point we successfully enforced meetings ending 5 minutes before the hour, but then somebody would just open the next meeting 5 minutes early.

Even if someone starts a meeting early, I still don't join until the start time out of spite.

Re: Start your meetings at 5 minutes past

#110
post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Individual Contributors - not managmenet

That almost sounds insulting. Like management is the only party with vision, drive and a goal and everybody else is just there to help. When often management just manages and true innovation really comes from people of all positions.

On the contrary, it is a helpful term. Before the term, it was common to ask "are you a manager", and then you were defined oppositionally, as not-a-manager.

Whereas IC having its own identity means it has many positive connotations. "I'd much rather be an IC, so I can get things done" etc. You can still be very senior without having direct reports or having to do line management, often seen as a necessary evil.

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