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The U.S. Government Just Followed Through on Its Ban of DJI Drones

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Re: The U.S. Government Just Followed Through on Its Ban of DJI Drones

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Post by mikkupikku »

watwut wrote: post #51
ericmay wrote: post #22

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Maybe, or maybe it’s just good policy to not import a network of drones from an adversary to democracies across the world, which includes the EU most importantly as China helps Russia with its invasion of Ukraine and is gearing up for some activity in Taiwan. People can just record all this stuff on their iPhones that they already have. You don’t need a DJI drone to record police malfeasance. Maybe you do in China or…

> as China helps Russia with its invasion of Ukraine America is helping Russia with its invasion of Ukraine.

You need to get off reddit, ASAP.

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Post by toast0 »

aardvarkr wrote: post #70
jayd16 wrote: post #54

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That logic also means they shouldn't be banned under 2nd amendment protections, no?

No, you can think of them more like unarmed artillery shells. Can you walk down the street to buy some artillery munitions? Even if they were considered arms for the purpose of 2a this isn’t a ban on drones but a specific manufacturer. They government can definitely refuse to grant a manufacturer license to sell on this country.

Pretty sure you can find inert artillery shells for sale if you cjeck your thrift and military surplus store.

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Post by mothballed »

pixl97 wrote: post #13
mothballed wrote: post #10

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Doesn't Ukraine also import most of its drone technology?

Hence they are vulnerable to their suppliers....

The lesson learned from Ukraine is that importation of drones is a terrific asset, rather than a liability. Maybe you think that lesson would not apply to the USA, but that wouldn't be a lesson learned from Ukraine, rather the lesson learned would be the opposite.

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Post by [deleted] »

jadedanalyst wrote: post #50
Kapura wrote: post #2

Seeing how drone warfare has become the new hot front in 21st century conflicts like Ukraine, it's hard not to speculate on the implications of this as political unrest continues to rise in the U.S. It's no secret that the current U.S. regime views a sizeable portion of its own civilian citizens as enemy combatants. They are already shooting people in the face and not even putting up a pretense of acting shocked at t…

Agreed. They can’t control the narrative if journalists and activists can observe brutal state violence against citizens with their pocket drones. I picked up an older DJI model in December and am super glad I did with recent events.

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Post by FrustratedMonky »

simianparrot wrote: post #80
jadedanalyst wrote: post #50

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Agreed. They can’t control the narrative if journalists and activists can observe brutal state violence against citizens with their pocket drones. I picked up an older DJI model in December and am super glad I did with recent events.

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"Where’s the brutal state violence?"

This seems like a troll?

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Post by mikkupikku »

gruez wrote: post #95
mikkupikku wrote: post #90

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They did murder a woman, but I agree that one murder is far short of a civil war. Even understanding that a single murder can be the spark that starts a fire, I don't think we're even close to that kind of scenario (contrary to the hyperbolic rhetoric which has become normalized from both sides over the past 10ish years.)

>They did murder a woman, but I agree that one murder is far short of a civil war. "violence" covers more than just murder, and there's plenty of ICE violence to go around.

Protestors and cops having tussles in the streets falls short of my bar for "brutal violence"; shooting a woman in the face certainly qualifies, but I am not seeing anything like that so widespread that it could motivate a drone ban like some people in this discussion are asserting. The political violence in America right now doesn't even come close to what was normal in living memory in the 20th century. America today is very peaceful, not that you'd think it from following the media.

The DJI ban is about China, not domestic protests.

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Post by FrustratedMonky »

alex43578 wrote: post #87
simianparrot wrote: post #80

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Obama still has the record for deporting people.

You can do it by following the rules non-violently.

Trump/Right, enjoy seeing people in pain. That's the problem, the methods and glee in seeing the pain.

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Post by ivell »

Kapura wrote: post #2

Seeing how drone warfare has become the new hot front in 21st century conflicts like Ukraine, it's hard not to speculate on the implications of this as political unrest continues to rise in the U.S. It's no secret that the current U.S. regime views a sizeable portion of its own civilian citizens as enemy combatants. They are already shooting people in the face and not even putting up a pretense of acting shocked at t…

My takeaway is that all previous U.S. administrations had pretense of morality and rules in both international and domestic politics (even when they did dubious stuff). The new administration has realized that there is no need for such pretense to stay in power. Previously Venezuelan attack would have been about "democracy" and "freedom" and "peace". Trump has made it clear that it is for oil.

Overall it is probably better for the world society in general that pretense is gone and the realpolitics is laid bare. The risks are no longer ambiguous but real and clearly stated and the world can plan mitigation accordingly.

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Post by Someone1234 »

simianparrot wrote: post #80
jadedanalyst wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed. They can’t control the narrative if journalists and activists can observe brutal state violence against citizens with their pocket drones. I picked up an older DJI model in December and am super glad I did with recent events.

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32 people[0] have died in ICE custody, and an additional 4 this year alone[1].

[0] https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2026/jan/...

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_deaths_in_ICE_detentio...

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