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#101

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If negative 38 TRILLION dollars is not “run out”, what is?

People being unwilling to loan you more. Which, at present, seems quite a ways off still.

Hold that thought.

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#102

More proof that a nuclear nation can do whatever the hell it wants until the money runs out.

If negative 38 TRILLION dollars is not “run out”, what is?

It happens in levels as the credit rating defaults

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#103

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We're well beyond what a democratic administration following the Trump one can undo, there is a large amount of permanent damage.

Democratic measures against Republicans is always one step forward for every two steps back. It’s not enough and has never been enough because liberals don’t fight a fraction as hard to help people as conservatives do to fuck people over. Every single democratic administration wastes months to years trying some sort of reconciliation path with people who actively hate them and wonder why politics as usual isn’t worki…

I agree, but believe jacquesm is pointing to a larger problem: even with diligent and committed efforts by a different administration or a series of them, the rest of the world is not going to trust the US any more for a very long time. Partly thanks to social media, it's obvious that the political realignment we're seeing is not just the work of a few political strategists and manipulators, but that about a third of the US is consumed by a revanchist mindset with whom accommodation is impossible.

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#104

More proof that a nuclear nation can do whatever the hell it wants until the money runs out.

If negative 38 TRILLION dollars is not “run out”, what is?

US net worth, including government and private wealth, composed of financial and other assets, comes to around $200 trillion USD, including the $38T in debt.

Total governmental assets come to around $25T. $38T in debt is bad, but that doesn't represent net worth.

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#105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If negative 38 TRILLION dollars is not “run out”, what is?

US net worth, including government and private wealth, composed of financial and other assets, comes to around $200 trillion USD, including the $38T in debt. Total governmental assets come to around $25T. $38T in debt is bad, but that doesn't represent net worth.

Let's not forget that all that net worth is not liquid and pumped up with hot air.

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#106
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That creates a lot of work for the next administration.

He will likely run again. Already signalled that

In my opinion he doesn't stand a chance a 3rd time around. Also he's too old for that, he'd be 83 yo and by the end of his 3rd term would be 87.

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#107

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The standard is whether the agent reasonably believes he is in danger. It is not based on whether the car is going too slow to cause damage based on an arm chair's expert claim online. Now, if you are saying there is nothing in that video that makes you question some of your assumptions, we can stop this conversation now. You are too motivated to make 'your side' win.

He continues shooting after he is to the side of the car to the point he is shooting through the open driver window. He is to the side of the car. He is not in it's path even remotely while still shooting. Even if we assume the first shot was justified (which I disagree with but whatever, we're not going to change each other's minds) the remainder are not. Lethal force is not on the table for punitive actions. It is…

It is a more reasoned argument, which I can't automatically reject. I suspect I know what the defense here would be, but I guess we will learn that later on. It is still a little crazy to expect perfection with a moving target, but I am willing to accept it as a premise.

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#108
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Full disclosure. I have/had some cops in my extended family so I might come across as biased. If someone is driving towards you and there is an indication it may hurt you, all bets are off. It is a simple question of survival. Now, a lot will rest on that 'reasonably', but based on the video alone, it is not nearly as clear as some would have you believe that he could not reasonably believe that his life was in dange…

My stance (and I have interacted with Commonwealth LEO's, lawyers, and prosecutors about this very question) is this was a failure of training and procedure. Forget this "last mile" analysis where you're looking at a crowd of agents about a car in slow motion and an officer standing in front with an already drawn weapon. Less than a minute earlier that vehicle was motionless and parked up. Everything that followed ha…

Honestly, I am not sure and tbh most of us will hopefully never have to find out. That said, I can tell you what I did when the raids were happening in Chicagoland. I stayed home and when I did go out, I took papers with. Why? Because there is one sure way to not get oneself in trouble: not being where trouble are. That is why my first question is: why was she there to begin with?

I won't lie. It is a concern.

Look at the bright side, if there is a chance to limit some of the police powers at federal level, I could not see a better opportunity.

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#110

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Democratic measures against Republicans is always one step forward for every two steps back. It’s not enough and has never been enough because liberals don’t fight a fraction as hard to help people as conservatives do to fuck people over. Every single democratic administration wastes months to years trying some sort of reconciliation path with people who actively hate them and wonder why politics as usual isn’t worki…

I agree, but believe jacquesm is pointing to a larger problem: even with diligent and committed efforts by a different administration or a series of them, the rest of the world is not going to trust the US any more for a very long time. Partly thanks to social media, it's obvious that the political realignment we're seeing is not just the work of a few political strategists and manipulators, but that about a third of…

Indeed. Even Canadians, who - as a rule, and of course only in my experience - are fairly mild mannered are now outright aghast at the way their Southern neighbor is behaving. This is something I never expected to see and here we are, and that little bit of damage alone is going to last for a decade or more if it doesn't get much worse compared to where it is today.

The damage we're talking about will last for generations.

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