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How wolves became dogs

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Re: How wolves became dogs

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Post by mjanx123 »

jjtheblunt wrote: post #22

I watch the genetic studies and it seems always presumed, in these articles, that dogs derive from wolves, not that dogs derive from siblings of wolves that derive from a common proto-canine ancestor. The wikipedia entry considers the issue, presents data that are curious with respect ot the data in the Economist article, saying domestication is presumed from wolves roughly 14,000 years or so ago. https://en.wikipedi…

Dogs descend from an extinct wolf species that was sibling to the grey wolf. There are multiple wolf species, proto wolves date far before dog domestication.

Re: How wolves became dogs

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Post by jjtheblunt »

mjanx123 wrote: post #101
jjtheblunt wrote: post #22

I watch the genetic studies and it seems always presumed, in these articles, that dogs derive from wolves, not that dogs derive from siblings of wolves that derive from a common proto-canine ancestor. The wikipedia entry considers the issue, presents data that are curious with respect ot the data in the Economist article, saying domestication is presumed from wolves roughly 14,000 years or so ago. https://en.wikipedi…

Dogs descend from an extinct wolf species that was sibling to the grey wolf. There are multiple wolf species, proto wolves date far before dog domestication.

that's consistent with what is discussed a couple days ago with article links.

do you have a dataset or study with such? it would be interesting.

Re: How wolves became dogs

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Post by ChrisMarshallNY »

FeteCommuniste wrote: post #36
sjw987 wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the UK, it's incredibly common for dog owners to do this. When confronted about leaving the bagged dog shit somewhere they always say they're going to pick it up on the way back, yet the next day it's still there. Modern British dog owners are incredibly irresponsible surrounding how they look after their pets and how they handle the pets mess. Covid made it measurably worse.

> In the UK, it's incredibly common for dog owners to do this. That's wild. I've never once seen this in the US. Obviously there are people who just don't clean up after their dogs in the first place, but to clean it up and then hang the bagged crap on a tree? Haha.

A lot of times, they just toss the bag on the ground.

Each morning, I take a 5K walk around the neighborhood, and am constantly passing cast-off shitbags.

They are usually brightly-colored, and are easy to spot.

I remember, once, being at a stop light, on a fairly major road, where a guy was walking his dog, and just dropped the bag, right there. He did it kind of surreptitiously, but he still did it in front of everyone.

Probably was a fairly high-value person, too. It was a pretty tony neighborhood.

Re: How wolves became dogs

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Post by conductr »

WalterBright wrote: post #86
conductr wrote: post #66

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Dogs get bred for specific personality traits and to develop physical traits. My border collie was a maniac that just wanted to work all day every day. That herding part of his personality was extremely prevalent. Even if I tossed a treat on the ground, it never would occur to him to use his nose, he'd frantically look all around. Even if it was right under his nose if he didn't see it then it's as if it didn't exist…

> Dogs get bred for specific personality traits and to develop physical traits. If I was a doggie researcher, I'd be breeding them for general intelligence and see how far that can go. For example, some dogs have vocabularies of over 100 words.

It’s a cartoon but your comment immediately made me think of Brian on Family Guy lol

Re: How wolves became dogs

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Post by WalterBright »

conductr wrote: post #104
WalterBright wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Dogs get bred for specific personality traits and to develop physical traits. If I was a doggie researcher, I'd be breeding them for general intelligence and see how far that can go. For example, some dogs have vocabularies of over 100 words.

It’s a cartoon but your comment immediately made me think of Brian on Family Guy lol

Brian is just smart enough to be stupid!
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