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Re: 39th Chaos Communication Congress Videos

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Post by pseudohadamard »

neiman wrote: post #3

Where were people's favourite lectures? I attended 7 talks. My favourite talk by far was hacking the GPG. Brilliant, really: https://media.ccc.de/v/39c3-to-sign-or-not-to-sign-practical... The "In-house electronics manufacturing from scratch" was a very inspiring talk: https://media.ccc.de/v/39c3-in-house-electronics-manufacturi... The rest were less good for me personally. Either over-dramatic and shallow (with a se…

The Deutschlandticket talk was pretty cool. As Malcolm Tucker would say, "what a catastrofuck".

Miele washing machine hacking, very nice, I was going to say I'd be waiting to see someone integrate it into HA... and then looked up the Github repo and there's HA integration already there.

Re: 39th Chaos Communication Congress Videos

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Post by lukan »

atoav wrote: post #98
lukan wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This one was moderated, though. "The main part of the workshop consists of a moderated deliberative discussion with the audience." I think it is a bit ironic, that Joshua got canceled because of a private conversation - and the debate about it is not recorded, so .. in effect people are more free to express their opinions without getting canceled. Disapointing to me. Joshua seems to have points of views I find debata…

In my dayjob I often run the tech for events, nearly once a week. In my experience known recording/publication tend to make discussions worse and not better than closed room discussions — especially if the topic is controversial. I'd love it if that wasn't the case, but that is not what I observed. That is because with published recordings it often becomes purely performative, where people aren't actually interested…

"the tendency speaks for the closed room, especially with touchy subjects."

I do agree to that

I just would have prefered a closed room debate with him invited to adress those issues, not the cancel mentality and then speaking in a close room about him.

Re: 39th Chaos Communication Congress Videos

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Post by fsflover »

dxdm wrote: post #102
utopiah wrote: post #54

Upvoted since mine https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46452407 didn't take off. PS: HN sucks with dupes.

Don't be sad, HN karma has no real worth. On the contrary: It only serves as a proxy measure for how much of your time went to waste. ;)

Still, it's really helpful to be able to downvote ;)

Re: 39th Chaos Communication Congress Videos

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Post by rcbdev »

pamcake wrote: post #71
peterfirefly wrote: post #69

It's a strange mix of very good tech talks and left-wing extremism. I'm looking forward to watching "Who cares about the Baltic Jammer?" and "The art of text (rendering)" as examples of the former. An example of the latter is "selbstverständlich antifaschistisch!"

> It's a strange mix of very good tech talks and left-wing extremism. That last polarisation and othering is odd, unnecessary, divisive and not generally representative of 39c3 talks nor the CCC. Antifascism is a long tradition among humanists and European hackers and not related to "left-wing extremism". Why do you find it necessary to discredit the message of that talk? What's the supposedly extremist message in th…

What an odd othering you have committed here.

There's plenty of European technologists who feel completely alienated from most stuff around c3 and hacker spaces because, believe it or not, most members there do tend to adhere to radical left-wing ideologies. This usually invites a whole grab bag of problems, if one has more right-wing beliefs and tries to engage.

I will concede to you that it did not used to be this bad. But it is now. Chalking this issue up to a 'long tradition' is like saying: "Community X has a long tradition of radicalization, so it's a-ok!"

Re: 39th Chaos Communication Congress Videos

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Post by weinzierl »

aberoham wrote: post #61
weinzierl wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Somehow it did not get much attention, but Signal president Meredith Whittaker (together with Udbhav Tiwari) spoke about the risks and threats from AI-enabled systems. AI Agent, AI Spy https://media.ccc.de/v/39c3-ai-agent-ai-spy I also found the talk about Asahi interesting, both from a technical standpoint but also as a nice update what the current status is. Asahi Linux - Porting Linux to Apple Silicon https://medi…

Meredith's talk was extremely scripted, not very original and then she ducked out of taking any audience questions. Udbhav awkwardly stood there but seemed like he could have had much more to say. It was hard to watch. Mona Wang's talk early on Day 2 wasn't recorded but was the polar opposite -- Original, off-the-cuff, engaging, and just fun to witness. https://fahrplan.events.ccc.de/congress/2025/fahrplan/event/...…

To be fair, I believe they answered questions after the talk. At least there was a sizable gathering near the stage.

Re: 39th Chaos Communication Congress Videos

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Post by Beretta_Vexee »

lskkgklglw wrote: post #45
neiman wrote: post #3

Where were people's favourite lectures? I attended 7 talks. My favourite talk by far was hacking the GPG. Brilliant, really: https://media.ccc.de/v/39c3-to-sign-or-not-to-sign-practical... The "In-house electronics manufacturing from scratch" was a very inspiring talk: https://media.ccc.de/v/39c3-in-house-electronics-manufacturi... The rest were less good for me personally. Either over-dramatic and shallow (with a se…

The biggest problem with ccc is that: 0. They are releasing too few tickets. 1. They are releasing the tickets too late. 3. Still not able to pay with card? I live somewhat nearby, but can’t book or plan a visit because of this. I appreciate that they are releasing videos shortly afterwards though.

At the time when this took place in Berlin, in the Berlin Congress Center, which was rather small, there were only a few hundred seats available, and most of them had already been allocated before they even went on sale.

It was also a great excuse to spend New Year's Eve in Berlin.

Re: 39th Chaos Communication Congress Videos

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Post by divan »

aweiher wrote: post #43
divan wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Network effects, obviously.

I’d argue that what you're experiencing isn't the Network Effect anymore, but rather Vendor Lock-in. The Network Effect implies the platform gets better for you as more people join. If they are deleting your content, the network is no longer serving you—it’s just holding you hostage. This is enshitification as it best. (this ironie with a cory doctorow link) At this stage, it’s just a walled garden. Staying because '…

I agree with you, but perhaps walled garden and network effects are not mutually exclusive. I.e. if I leave the garden, I'm losing value of being able to reach many people I care about.

Re: 39th Chaos Communication Congress Videos

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Post by cguess »

lskkgklglw wrote: post #45
neiman wrote: post #3

Where were people's favourite lectures? I attended 7 talks. My favourite talk by far was hacking the GPG. Brilliant, really: https://media.ccc.de/v/39c3-to-sign-or-not-to-sign-practical... The "In-house electronics manufacturing from scratch" was a very inspiring talk: https://media.ccc.de/v/39c3-in-house-electronics-manufacturi... The rest were less good for me personally. Either over-dramatic and shallow (with a se…

The biggest problem with ccc is that: 0. They are releasing too few tickets. 1. They are releasing the tickets too late. 3. Still not able to pay with card? I live somewhat nearby, but can’t book or plan a visit because of this. I appreciate that they are releasing videos shortly afterwards though.

There wasn't even enough assembly space this year, it was bursting at the seams. Sadly I think CCH is just too small for this conference. There's a much bigger conference space space down the street, but the rumor is that going back to Leipzig (where it was held during the renovation of CCH) is back in discussion. That place was too big though.

Re: 39th Chaos Communication Congress Videos

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Post by tmsbrg »

lmeyerov wrote: post #72
Alconicon wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the blue team ctf ai talk was a good benchmark were we at right now https://media.ccc.de/v/39c3-breaking-bots-cheating-at-blue-t...

Thank you, and happy to answer questions on that, it's been a crazy time! Maybe of relevance to non-security people here: 1. Most of it is about AI investigating event data in general, not just SOC/IR: cyber, intel, fraud, SRE, and we're even messing with customer 360 & social media data 2. For anyone into vibes coding or building agents, I encourage jumping to the "self-writing AI" section where we're finding we are…

Hey, I just saw your talk and for someone who's not really up to date with the latest AI developments it's eye opening what you got going in SoC investigations.

I personally work as pentester and we're still doing a lot of manual work with AI simply as a better version of Google, but seeing the BOTS presentation I feel we can do better. Do you have any idea if anyone's working on something similar to Louie in pentesting space, or if Louie could work with pentesting workflows?

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