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Why I Disappeared – My week with minimal internet in a remote island chain

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post #91

I have been offline for a week, hurry up I need to share my experience online!

Writing about stuff and entertaining parasocial relationships is his job, it's not exactly weird that he wrote a post about his holiday trip.

> Independent journalist covering national security and U.S. politics.

Well, no, it isn't his actual job, the job he says he's doing

Re: Why I Disappeared – My week with minimal internet in a remote island chain

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I had a similar experience many decades ago, taking a long overland trip and being out of touch of news for almost half a year. Coming back, I realized that the world had gone on perfectly well without me following all the daily drama. Most news seemed so irrelevant for a while after that trip. Of course I fell back in to following the news, and the rest of the internet. Thank you for reminding me that it is not so i…

I did this except it was more like a month. When I got back I realised how much happier I was to be off of X and oblivious to the news. There is virtually zero utility to being "informed" of most things, and plenty of downsides.

I once stumbled upon the idea of calculating the signal to noise ration of "news". Say you consume 30 pieces of "news" a day, you are roughly at 10k "news" pieces a year. How many of those influence a decision you make. Like which job to take, whom to propose to, where to move.

The author, Hans Rosling by the way, showed with this little thought experiment, how little signal for our personal lives and our important decisions lies in "news".

I also worked in publishing for a while as my first job out of university. Ever since I left that industry I am so happy to be out of that drama generating machine.

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#104
post #58

I had a similar experience when I stopped using Twitter. I only go back because a friend of mine posts there and I really like his posts. Occasionally I flip to my Following or For You tabs and they look incredibly sophomoric. It's 40 and 50 year olds using teenager memes and tropes. Then I realized, that a similar sort of mechanic applies on Hacker News so I decided to aggressively killfile users who annoy me one wa…

Can't you follow someone without using twitter? I know that with mastodon I can just subscribe to the rss feed of anyone without using an account, visiting a server's feed or actually firing up a fediverse compatible app

It’s almost impossible to browse twitter without an account anymore. If you get a direct link to a tweet you can see it, but every click will prompt you to log in. Same for other platforms.

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#105
post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe you need to read more news if you think we have people in charge who'd care about public opposition to the practice. This is foisting misery on people who have no capacity to affect change.

No capacity to affect change? Are we forgetting that this specific policy we are discussing was voted in by the public and won the popular vote barely more than a year ago? I think if more people were legitimately better educated and informed that outcome might not have happened. The problem is…who is doing the informing and educating? Oftentimes the sources taking up that role are doing so with motives that are not…

Wow. Great. Which term is our President on again and can you confirm that time flows linearly and cannot, in fact, flow backwards to undo the election?

The public has no ability to affect change on the policy this Presidency makes. Especially not the public that is predisposed to dislike the President.

This is sadistic and selfish to believe the public must be relentlessly informed of these individual policies that they cannot do anything about. Anything they are informed about present day will almost certainly be forgotten years down the line. But they'll be stressed and unhappy along the way.

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#106
post #58

I had a similar experience when I stopped using Twitter. I only go back because a friend of mine posts there and I really like his posts. Occasionally I flip to my Following or For You tabs and they look incredibly sophomoric. It's 40 and 50 year olds using teenager memes and tropes. Then I realized, that a similar sort of mechanic applies on Hacker News so I decided to aggressively killfile users who annoy me one wa…

Same, I have about 5 friends I follow - but I do it via bookmarked xcancel so I feel less sullied by the experience.

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#107

Good start. Now do it for three months. Every year. Been doing that for 25 years now, and the only regret I have is that I should have started earlier.

Can you share some details? Do you disconnect while in your hometown going about your daily routine, or do you have this down time in a different environment? I'm kind of looking for inspiration. I have grown kids and friends that I text with so I'm also wondering how my relationship with them would fit into this. Has that played a role for you?

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#108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I did this except it was more like a month. When I got back I realised how much happier I was to be off of X and oblivious to the news. There is virtually zero utility to being "informed" of most things, and plenty of downsides.

I once stumbled upon the idea of calculating the signal to noise ration of "news". Say you consume 30 pieces of "news" a day, you are roughly at 10k "news" pieces a year. How many of those influence a decision you make. Like which job to take, whom to propose to, where to move. The author, Hans Rosling by the way, showed with this little thought experiment, how little signal for our personal lives and our important d…

The big one is voting, of course. It's not like following international politics will impact what firmness mattress I will buy.

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#110
post #73

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Not "privilege" per se, I think that's the wrong word. Republican or Democrat, left or right, rich or very very rich - there is a lot of self-selection bias in judging the world from a pool of people who decided to go on vacation to the Galapagos...

Isn't that exactly what privilege is though? A measure of a person's ability to be part of that self-selected pool, and to shield yourself from issues that affect other people?

"Privilege" has sort of morphed in an mostly-untouchable insult and I don't think it means very much of anything any longer and should not be used. What it means in practice:

- You can't have an opinion because you're in the wrong group.

- Your opinion is wrong because you're in the wrong group.

- Your opinion is hypocritical (and therefore wrong) because of the group you're in.

It's a big step back with regard to argumentation. Ideas are either correct or not, and the fact that they came from someone who might have some advantages does not weigh in on this.

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