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The battle to stop clever people betting

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Re: The battle to stop clever people betting

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Lately it feels like more and more people who are not religious invoke Christ to tell believers what they must do.

Believe it or not but I'm a Christian and a Libertarian.

Following is about larger movements and political leaders. Anyway, considering that both chrustians and libertarian movements aligned themselves with fascist right instantly, there is no contradiction.

Re: The battle to stop clever people betting

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It is not gay, it is masculine, it does not hurt women, so christian right likes it. That it also hurts playing men does not bother christian right either, they will blame women and gay for that anyway.

> it does not hurt women Why make assertions that even a cursory search can disprove? https://bettingladies.com/articles/super-bowl-2024

I mean, we can reach gender equality in this one too, but overall, men are still more of direct victims.

Women are still more of indirect ones - harmed more by having relationship with gambler and ending responsible for debt due to marriage.

Re: The battle to stop clever people betting

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I would love to see the gambling industry beaten back into whatever holes they slithered out of. If you want to gamble it should be in some smokey back room at a liquor store. I'm surprised the christian right isn't making more of a fuss about gambling, but I guess they're getting greased to look the other way.

Right side Christian here.

There are much bigger fish to fry at the moment. Gambling does wreck families, though.

Re: The battle to stop clever people betting

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I would love to see the gambling industry beaten back into whatever holes they slithered out of. If you want to gamble it should be in some smokey back room at a liquor store. I'm surprised the christian right isn't making more of a fuss about gambling, but I guess they're getting greased to look the other way.

It is not gay, it is masculine, it does not hurt women, so christian right likes it. That it also hurts playing men does not bother christian right either, they will blame women and gay for that anyway.

Domestic violence incidents go up when hometown sports teams lose. This effect is amplified with gambling. Women might be less likely to lose their wealth than men, but they are still likely to be victims of the ecosystem.

Re: The battle to stop clever people betting

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post #26

I would love to see the gambling industry beaten back into whatever holes they slithered out of. If you want to gamble it should be in some smokey back room at a liquor store. I'm surprised the christian right isn't making more of a fuss about gambling, but I guess they're getting greased to look the other way.

Lately it feels like more and more people who are not religious invoke Christ to tell believers what they must do.

You don’t have to be religious to know and support the moral teachings of a religion

Re: The battle to stop clever people betting

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Lately it feels like more and more people who are not religious invoke Christ to tell believers what they must do.

Yes, because the vast majority of self proclaimed and vocal so called "Christ"-ians have completely forgotten about (or conveniently abandoned) the teachings and philosophy of Christ the man. Nobody can claim with a straight face that the "Christian Right" movement in the US can be classified as wholesome love-thy-neighbour Christianity. Because from where I'm standing, it's far from it.

This is because, actually practicing the Christian faith vs simply performing theatrics are different things.

From my own experience of someone who practices regularly, there is a minority of people who really follow it. They show up to the daily Mass, perform Works of Mercy, do charitable work, etc. The truth is that Christianity demands _a lot_ from you, including saying no to greed, lust and gluttony.

How many people are willing to say no to an extra 200k so that someone less fortunate might benefit? Or open their homes to strangers, so that they may not freeze in the cold?

I think that one of the worst thing that has happened to our faith is its hijacking by the government for political gain (some lower Churches like Evangelicals are currently _heavily_ suffering due to this).

I'm a Catholic but when I speak to my Protestant friends, they feel the same about their communities. Luckily, we still have each other and Christ to help guide us.

Re: The battle to stop clever people betting

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Stock market is not gambling, but you can definitely gamble on the stock market. Considering it's a zero sum game (instead of negative sum, like in casino) and it's taxed favorably I have no idea why anyone still does sports betting.

The financial markets are only near-zero sum at the level of large finanical institutions. For everyone else there is a cost per transaction (either a direct fee or your info gets shared with a favored sharkpool first). Limit orders give away information and market orders pay the spread between buy and sell. Not exactly zero sum at a technical level, but definitely much closer to it than casinos.

Financial markets are positive-sum if you measure utility rather than cash. The person you were responding to is just generating garbage.

Re: The battle to stop clever people betting

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I would love to see the gambling industry beaten back into whatever holes they slithered out of. If you want to gamble it should be in some smokey back room at a liquor store. I'm surprised the christian right isn't making more of a fuss about gambling, but I guess they're getting greased to look the other way.

I'm sure there are strong humanist arguments against gambling. Don't need a religious argument against it.

Re: The battle to stop clever people betting

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post #91

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Yes, because the vast majority of self proclaimed and vocal so called "Christ"-ians have completely forgotten about (or conveniently abandoned) the teachings and philosophy of Christ the man. Nobody can claim with a straight face that the "Christian Right" movement in the US can be classified as wholesome love-thy-neighbour Christianity. Because from where I'm standing, it's far from it.

This is because, actually practicing the Christian faith vs simply performing theatrics are different things. From my own experience of someone who practices regularly, there is a minority of people who really follow it. They show up to the daily Mass, perform Works of Mercy, do charitable work, etc. The truth is that Christianity demands _a lot_ from you, including saying no to greed, lust and gluttony. How many peo…

It has been hijacked, but this is nothing new. Also, it’s been hijacked from within - look at all the photos of ministers praying for/with Trump. There is a lot of rot within Christianity - obviously not everyone, but a lot. Matt 7:21-23 was given for a reason.
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