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Re: Microsoft please get your tab to autocomplete shit together

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Post by orthoxerox »

jknutson wrote: post #63
naikrovek wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have a command line program at work which outputs json. Pure JSON in all situations. I thought nushell would be able to make sense of that and display it semi-nicely. Nushell pukes on it, errors out, and doesn’t even show the output of the command . As far as sins go for a shell, not showing the output of the program it just ran is very high among them. nushell had its chance with me.

With external commands you might have to collect the output of the program before doing any sort of manipulation. I’ve been got by this before too; the fix is simple (for me at least). `external.exe | collect | from json` et voila

This doesn't look like a pit of success design.

Re: Microsoft please get your tab to autocomplete shit together

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Post by jknutson »

orthoxerox wrote: post #101
jknutson wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

With external commands you might have to collect the output of the program before doing any sort of manipulation. I’ve been got by this before too; the fix is simple (for me at least). `external.exe | collect | from json` et voila

This doesn't look like a pit of success design.

Well, every shell has its quirks and gotchas. I’ve found nushell’s to be the least intrusive and most workable thus far.

Re: Microsoft please get your tab to autocomplete shit together

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Post by halapro »

godelski wrote: post #77
Waterluvian wrote: post #72

iOS autocomplete for the longest time was just absolutely insane. It would inject the selected suggested option into the middle of a word when I was correcting a spelling error. Really made me feel like I was doing something weird but I swear I was being normal for once.

Mine still does this, especially when it's correcting a word. It happens when your cursor is in the word. But I'm not sure what I hate more: the one I hate the most is when it completes for you and then you get two instances of the word, no space separation or where it corrects the word you just swiped AND the word before it... and then when you press backspace it deletes both words... Btw, I have autocorrect disable…

The absolute worst part of OS autocomplete in general is the myriad of apps which some-fn-how break typing wherever an autocompletion is available.

I have an autocompletion for "aa" and it's triggered before I press space, meaning it's impossible to type Aaron in these fields.

I can only imagine the pain of using "composed" input methods like CJK, etc where every glyph requires multiple keypresses: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Input_method

Re: Microsoft please get your tab to autocomplete shit together

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Post by drnick1 »

Someone1234 wrote: post #19
OptionOfT wrote: post #7

Reminds me of Windows Search. It's been botched since they added ads to the Start Menu. Pretty soon VSCode will show you intellisense ads in the list of code completions.

Windows Search requires a DNS lookup, and HTTP request to start your search, as a direct result if either one of those is slow the whole UI lags and hangs. It hasn't ever been fixed in Windows 11. Also, there is a RegX way of disabling "bing" for-real in the search but they released an update that caused doing so to break search entirely if that was set (totally a coincidence I'm sure).

> Windows Search requires a DNS lookup, and HTTP request to start your search, as a direct result if either one of those is slow the whole UI lags and hangs. It hasn't ever been fixed in Windows 11.

The fix is called Linux.

Re: Microsoft please get your tab to autocomplete shit together

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Post by teekert »

meander_water wrote: post #8

This is actually bearable compared to the new terminal suggestions in vscode. Not only does it autosuggest bizzare completions for commands, it breaks shell completions. So when I tab a file path, it shoves the absolute path into the partially typed path making it unusable.

Ha, was going to come here to complain! It completely breaks my up arrow is history search based on typed chars. First thing I do on a Linux box (and it will blow your mind) is put this in ~/.inputrc :

    "\e[A": history-search-backward
    "\e[B": history-search-forward
    "\e[C": forward-char
    "\e[D": backward-char
If you think that you can just start "enhancing" people's terminal experience like it's a Windows 11 taskbar, I don't think you understand terminal users. It's all good, but make it opt in via some config file (i.e. ~/.bashrc)!

Re: Microsoft please get your tab to autocomplete shit together

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Post by bluecalm »

FridayoLeary wrote: post #21
OptionOfT wrote: post #7

Reminds me of Windows Search. It's been botched since they added ads to the Start Menu. Pretty soon VSCode will show you intellisense ads in the list of code completions.

I'm convinced that the win10 Start Menu was the single worst thing microsoft inflicted upon us in that OS. I imagine that particular discussion went like this: Exec1:"We have a semi decent os with a refreshingly updated UI that should stay relevant for a decade. How can we make it better?" Exec2: "why not replace the perfectly good start menu we have with an ugly, oddly proportioned rectangle with animated ads for ou…

It took me a few hours to make the start menu looks like this: https://i.ibb.co/R4pgrwBx/start-menu.png

Now it's clean, doesn't show any web results when I start typing there: https://i.ibb.co/KpNptJTq/start-menu2.png

It also starts instantly every time (that requires removing Edge and web results from there). I use it as an app launcher only. The only missing touch is a fuzzy search but I can live without it.

I've spent too much time on it. There are tools that do it for you if you trust them (like Windhawk).

>>I haven't used Win11 enough to discover how they have managed to further degrade the experience, but at least it looks nicer.

It's an anti-pattern over anti-pattern over anti-pattern. There is a trap waiting for you at every corner. At this point it's hard to imagine them not losing the whole consumer PC market to Apple and maybe some gaming friendly Linux distros. It will take a decade or so but once the snowball starts it will not turn back. I don't think it's only about power users only. They forced S0 sleep but didn't are about making sure it doesn't crash the system because of some misbehaving driver or failed Windows update. Normal users don't like seeing everything gone and the computer restarting when they open the lid. That doesn't happen on Macs. It won't happen on Valve sponsored Linux distro either.

Re: Microsoft please get your tab to autocomplete shit together

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Post by tester756 »

koakuma-chan wrote: post #55
citbl wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are still plenty of things that VSCode does and Zed doesn't. E.g. Dart debugging. Also there is the VC money problem with Zed, at some point, that money will want returns on every dollar spent.

1. Use println 2. That's fine, they'll just build some cloud feature

>1. Use println

why use so primitive methods that only work under certain circumstances

Re: Microsoft please get your tab to autocomplete shit together

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Post by petre »

torben-friis wrote: post #33
meander_water wrote: post #8

This is actually bearable compared to the new terminal suggestions in vscode. Not only does it autosuggest bizzare completions for commands, it breaks shell completions. So when I tab a file path, it shoves the absolute path into the partially typed path making it unusable.

It’s so weird, vscode worked flawlessly for me for years and after migrating to neovim a month or two ago I keep seeing complains. Has there been a change lately and in the project, or is it just internet bias?

It does weird stuff. I've bitched about it do much to my workmates until they disabled autoformat features wich cause 5k line conflicts in SCM. I'm ysing codium which also does Clippy dmart stuff trying to be helpful and breaks code. They keep pushing AI junk and break functionality to the point that I'm looking for another editor with usable muliple cursors (not *vim and not helix which breaks my vim muscle memory).
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