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The e-scooter isn't new – London was zooming around on Autopeds a century ago

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Re: The e-scooter isn't new – London was zooming around on Autopeds a century ago

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they are no longer needed though with last mile delivery robots being introduced that can use the same elevator and stairs as humans

Which robots?

Check out the recent moves on Atlas.

https://youtu.be/I44_zbEwz_w?si=sFS5XUhNtwEz_ebH

Re: The e-scooter isn't new – London was zooming around on Autopeds a century ago

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European weather is still mild relative to the US. It will be so long as the Gulf Stream doesn't shut down. Americans are fatter and less healthy. Americans are busy and work longer and harder. ("Work hard, play hard.") Americans buy more stuff. Big stuff. Lots of stuff. Frequently. (This is actually a superpower of our consumer economy.) We have invested hundreds of trillions of dollars in our infrastructure. We mig…

> I know you Europeans love your model, but it doesn't apply to us. lol. You're what we call "carbrained". Explain how the climate of the coastal West coast is unsuitable for year-round bicycling. Much of it is nicer than the Netherlands and has several times the population.

You do realize most of the US doesn't live on the West coast, right?

Your sampling is skewed.

It's been freezing cold here and any destination within our major city you want to reach is 30+ minutes away by bike.

The "carbrained" insult is so stupid, btw. Once autonomous vehicles are commonplace you'll either come around or be complaining about it nonstop. Car usage is going to 2-10x.

Re: The e-scooter isn't new – London was zooming around on Autopeds a century ago

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I would argue the ammount of space in cities wasted on cars and their infrastructure is totally insane.

And again, the conversation here is about delivery trucks, not cars. Eliminating cars doesn’t eliminate the need for infrastructure for moving goods.

> Eliminating cars doesn’t eliminate the need for infrastructure for moving goods.

Burying other last mile utilities that waste less land was not insane when real estate was a fraction as valuable as now and engineering technology was worse.

Re: The e-scooter isn't new – London was zooming around on Autopeds a century ago

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post #45

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Probably cause modern logistics, especially last mile logistics, is dependent on trucks/delivery vans/etc. So even though folks in a local area might like to walk around, their groceries won’t make it to the stores and packages won’t get to their homes without a robust road network. I think Bacerlona hits a good compromise. The city has the concept of a superblock, which is a few city blocks grouped into one calm zon…

> their groceries won’t make it to the stores and packages won’t get to their homes without a robust road network. A road network isn't the only solution. In the early 20th century, for example, there was a separate narrow-gauge tunnel network beneath Chicago dedicated to freight. Deliveries were made directly to businesses via subbasements or elevator shafts. The network had stations at rail and ship terminals for a…

Also perhaps worth mentioning in Chicago is Lower Wacker Drive.

It's a split-level street, more-or-less with local traffic on the surface and with through traffic at the subterranean level. It's a quick way to get through the area.

And beneath parts of that that is an road I've heard referred to as Lower Lower Wacker. This is almost entirely the realm of delivery and service vehicles (except for a time in fairly recent years when those darned kids were using it for drag racing at night).

It's all crazy-expensive to build anything like underground local delivery rail and underground roadways.

(But the stuff at the surface is crazy-expensive, too, and often can't be expanded horizontally without demolition of the very buildings that it seeks to benefit.

But expanding down? Sometimes, yeah -- that can happen.)

Re: The e-scooter isn't new – London was zooming around on Autopeds a century ago

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post #35

God every website is such garbage these days. 1 second timer, full page pop up. Geolocation logging to sell to advertisers... I'm just not gonna read the article. It's a shame cause it looks interesting

"Please don't complain about tangential annoyances—e.g. article or website formats, name collisions, or back-button breakage. They're too common to be interesting."

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: The e-scooter isn't new – London was zooming around on Autopeds a century ago

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post #38

First off, the price: £36 was much more than "£1,600 in today’s money". A railway clerk made £2 12 0 in a week in 1917, (less than £10/month if I did the shillings and all that properly), which makes the scooter price the equivalent of 3.5 months, which is £7,000 at the lowest end of today's London North Eastern Railway salary range. The fact that the picture has Lady something in it, suggests it was more of an upper…

>>A railway clerk made £2 12 0 in a week

Made how much? I have no idea how to parse this

Re: The e-scooter isn't new – London was zooming around on Autopeds a century ago

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post #38

First off, the price: £36 was much more than "£1,600 in today’s money". A railway clerk made £2 12 0 in a week in 1917, (less than £10/month if I did the shillings and all that properly), which makes the scooter price the equivalent of 3.5 months, which is £7,000 at the lowest end of today's London North Eastern Railway salary range. The fact that the picture has Lady something in it, suggests it was more of an upper…

Another way to look at it. At that time a £1 coin was a gold sovereign, one of which is worth £800 today. Which makes it £28,800.

Re: The e-scooter isn't new – London was zooming around on Autopeds a century ago

#108
post #38

First off, the price: £36 was much more than "£1,600 in today’s money". A railway clerk made £2 12 0 in a week in 1917, (less than £10/month if I did the shillings and all that properly), which makes the scooter price the equivalent of 3.5 months, which is £7,000 at the lowest end of today's London North Eastern Railway salary range. The fact that the picture has Lady something in it, suggests it was more of an upper…

>>A railway clerk made £2 12 0 in a week Made how much? I have no idea how to parse this

£2 12 shillings and 0 pence.

A shilling was 1/20th of a pound. 12 pence were in a shilling (so 240 pence in £1)

Re: The e-scooter isn't new – London was zooming around on Autopeds a century ago

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>>A railway clerk made £2 12 0 in a week Made how much? I have no idea how to parse this

£2 12 shillings and 0 pence. A shilling was 1/20th of a pound. 12 pence were in a shilling (so 240 pence in £1)

Alright, thanks for explaining - but is that a standard way of writing this? Why not write £2 12s 0p?

Re: The e-scooter isn't new – London was zooming around on Autopeds a century ago

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£2 12 shillings and 0 pence. A shilling was 1/20th of a pound. 12 pence were in a shilling (so 240 pence in £1)

Alright, thanks for explaining - but is that a standard way of writing this? Why not write £2 12s 0p?

I guess tripping on LSD

L being pound, libre

S being shilling

D being pennies, I’m guess denari because someone went to grammar school

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