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Clair Obscur having its Indie Game Game Of The Year award stripped due to AI use

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Re: Clair Obscur having its Indie Game Game Of The Year award stripped due to AI use

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Post by tokioyoyo »

blackbrokkoli wrote: post #13

Is anyone else detecting a phase shift in LLM criticism? Of course you could always find opinion pieces, blogs and nerdy forum comments that disliked AI; but it appears to me that hate for AI gen content is now hitting mainstream contexts, normie contexts. Feels like my grandma may soon have an opinion on this. No idea what the implications are or even if this is actually something that's happening, but I think it's…

It’s the usual “I don’t like it, I’m against, but it’s okay if I use it” thing. People understand the advantage it gives a person over another one, so they will still use it here and there. You’ll have some people who will be vehemently against it, but it will be the same as people who categorically against having smartphones, or avoiding using any Meta products because of tracking and etc.

Re: Clair Obscur having its Indie Game Game Of The Year award stripped due to AI use

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Post by RealityVoid »

gyomu wrote: post #90
thiht wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s incredibly harsh. A blanket ban on AI generated assets is dumb as hell. Generating placeholder assets is completely acceptable.

I don't find it that surprising. The creatives that are against generative AI aren't against it only because it produces slop. They are against it because it uses past human creative labor, without permission or compensation, to generate profit for the companies building the models which they do not redistribute to the authors of that creative labor. They are also against it due to environmental impact. In that view,…

They are also against it because they believe it will compete with them and they will get paid less.

Re: Clair Obscur having its Indie Game Game Of The Year award stripped due to AI use

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Post by krapp »

jokoon wrote: post #100

indie game? with their budget and staff? really? those guys worked in AAA studios and they got a 10 millions budget how "indie" is that?

"indie" is just a marketing term now, it doesn't actually mean anything specific.

Re: Clair Obscur having its Indie Game Game Of The Year award stripped due to AI use

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Post by Anarch157a »

culturestate wrote: post #80
mvdtnz wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It literally is shipping AI generated content in the product.

> It literally is shipping AI generated content in the product. When someone goes three miles per hour over the speed limit they are literally breaking the law, but that doesn’t mean they should get a serious fine for it. Sometimes shit happens.

Countries with sane laws include a tolerance limit to take into account flaws in speedometers and radars. Here in Brazil, the tolerance is 10%, so tickets clearly state "driving at speed 10% above limit".

Re: Clair Obscur having its Indie Game Game Of The Year award stripped due to AI use

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gyomu wrote: post #90
thiht wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s incredibly harsh. A blanket ban on AI generated assets is dumb as hell. Generating placeholder assets is completely acceptable.

I don't find it that surprising. The creatives that are against generative AI aren't against it only because it produces slop. They are against it because it uses past human creative labor, without permission or compensation, to generate profit for the companies building the models which they do not redistribute to the authors of that creative labor. They are also against it due to environmental impact. In that view,…

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Re: Clair Obscur having its Indie Game Game Of The Year award stripped due to AI use

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Post by af78 »

fluxusars wrote: post #86
culturestate wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It literally is shipping AI generated content in the product. When someone goes three miles per hour over the speed limit they are literally breaking the law, but that doesn’t mean they should get a serious fine for it. Sometimes shit happens.

You will literally get a fine for going three miles per hour over the speed limit in many countries.

True, however the penalty depends on the amount by which the threshold was crossed; in the country I live in at least.

Re: Clair Obscur having its Indie Game Game Of The Year award stripped due to AI use

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Post by gus_massa »

protimewaster wrote: post #5

I wonder what definition of AI they're using? If you go by the definition in some textbooks (e.g., the definition given in the widely used Russell and Norvig text), basically any code with branches in it counts as AI, and thus nearly any game with any procedurally generated content would run afoul of this AI art rule.

AI is a moving goalpost. At least now the moving goalpost is call AGI.

A bunch of 'if' is an "expert system", but I'm old enough to remember when that was groundbreaking AI.

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