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Airbus to migrate critical apps to a sovereign Euro cloud

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Re: Airbus to migrate critical apps to a sovereign Euro cloud

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And not just Airbus. Very quietly there is a lot of stuff being moved out of the US and away from MS, AWS, Google etc. Trump has absolutely no idea what he's doing and comes across as the proverbial bull in a China shop. History books a hundred years hence will have some choice things to say about how we all stood by and let this happen.

Any concrete evidence of any of that outside of a few companies "exploring" the move? For most companies it's a non-starter

Re: Airbus to migrate critical apps to a sovereign Euro cloud

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A necessary step to reduce risk to infrastructure given that the US government has become erratic and has decided it is now anti-Europe. The US means to undermine the EU: https://www.dw.com/en/will-trump-pull-italy-austria-poland-h... The US means to annex European territory: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0j9l08902eo It's the same reason you don't want Chinese equipment in your telecommunications infrastructure.…

> It's the same reason you don't want Chinese equipment in your telecommunications infrastructure. You can't trust what the Chinese government will do to it or with it.

Using this logic, every country should develop its own critical equipment from scratch, in terms of both hardware and software.

My belief is that there is no problem with the Chinese equipment, just scare-mongering from the US because it has no manufacturer of 5G equipment. And Europe jumped on the bandwagon just because.

Re: Airbus to migrate critical apps to a sovereign Euro cloud

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Having worked with all major European clouds: Good luck, have fun opening a lot of support cases for things that should work ootb.

I do, works perfectly if you know what you're doing. If you have no clue, jump to AWS and enjoy the lockin, if you do, jump to a EU provider, and enjoy not being locked in, and a vastly lower cost.

Great - an anecdote. Most company leaders just want to focus on their core business on top of proven tech that works.

Re: Airbus to migrate critical apps to a sovereign Euro cloud

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Having worked with all major European clouds: Good luck, have fun opening a lot of support cases for things that should work ootb.

It's better than having the rug pulled from under your company one day. This is the point in history we're at unfortunately.

This is pure fear-mongering

Re: Airbus to migrate critical apps to a sovereign Euro cloud

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Almost all computer equipment is from China.

Production yes, but design is firmly in American hands - for now.

Well, the currently best OS widely deployed is Chinese only. HarmonyOS, a microkernel OS replacing Android on Chinese phones. About 10x faster development than in the US. And secure, unlike Linux.

Fuchsia never made it widescale. They started a couple of years before the Chinese and then got stuck

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I wonder if this includes Skywise, the Palantir-built data lake and design stack that they use for many many internal operations (design, airline support, manufacturing). Not sure what difference it really makes where the data is hosted if the folks doing the hosting call home to Colorado…

From what I've seen of Skywise, it is just a glorified SharePoint. Different systems upload CSV files that get turned into database tables. Then you can define views across these tables that other systems can consume by having them dumped to CSV and dropped on an SFTP.

Performance is not great, so you need middleware and batching anyway. As far as I am concerned, it wouldn't be a great loss if Skywise disappeared and just the SFTP with CSV:s remained.

Re: Airbus to migrate critical apps to a sovereign Euro cloud

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

They did not, this is all political ragebait journalism and memes.

Disbanding the EU is an official goal of the new US security strategy.

Divide and conquer is working well it seems.

There is no conspiracy, sorry.

Re: Airbus to migrate critical apps to a sovereign Euro cloud

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This trope with CERN/EU created the WWW is just chauvinism. That contribution to the internet is just infinitesimal small. Just stop repeating it as it was the cornerstone of today’s world. Is just one little stone in a gigantic castle made in the united states. I’m European, and I think is just silly to look who “invented” each thing, trying to feel patriotic about that. Every invention is based on other inventions,…

Is the castle made in the US? Why cut it off at precisely that point? Where was binary logic invented? Where was boolean algebra invented? Where was the turing machine invented? Hell, we can go back even further. Where would any of this be without Aristotle? Of course, this castle has been built by many many stones. But I think it's fair to say most stones came from Europe.

Could be, but so what?

The fact is the US and China are steamrolling us with their IT companies since decades.

We need to wake up and do it ourselves.

Re: Airbus to migrate critical apps to a sovereign Euro cloud

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I really hope regulators don't back down on this.

Half a billion people shouldn't be reliant on whether a guy with clown makeup is having a dementia moment.

Key infra (gov, utilities, news etc) has to be in house or at least in a EU country. Actually in house not big tech EU "sovereign" cloud wink wink nudge

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