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Coursera to combine with Udemy

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Re: Coursera to combine with Udemy

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Post by motbus3 »

I honest dislike the idea of having yet another niche going with less competitors.

Coursera somehow got to be not good. I subscribed to the premium thing and it is not worth for me. I'd rather pay for the courses and do that on my time.

Udemy does that "promotion" nonsense to "encourage" to "buy it now" which I think is lame. It is not like they are steam. They are just cycling through the list and add 1000 bucks to whatever is not there. Also they store your cookies and track your device for that. That's despicable

I wish Coursera to rethink this decision and to rethink on the platform itself.

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Post by ghaff »

Aurornis wrote: post #57
torben-friis wrote: post #27

As someone who had to drop out of school in the 2008 crisis (family trouble), I owe a good chunk of my learning to the first era of online teaching. Those courses that were basically “we’re a top university and we let someone record the class from the back” were a literal life changer. Honestly, that was all I wanted. Everything that came after has been substantially worse. Work is gamified, teachers spend more time…

> If we went back to recording lectures by the worlds best and putting it online for free with attached books and exercises, we could improve the world a lot. I learn well this way. You learn well this way. However, the big revelation from the early experiments with online courses and MOOCs is that most people don’t. Fundamentals of math, history, physics, and other core topics aren’t changing except maybe for some c…

You need forced exercises, you need grading, you need something of a schedule. Not to say people can't do it. But, especially for difficult material, even a lot of motivated people won't.

I mean I remember what undergrad (and grad school) was like and I'm pretty sure doing that independently and optionally would be tough.

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#103

Post by croes »

moralestapia wrote: post #73
DougN7 wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Considering hallucinations, that seems risky. How do you double check what you were taught?

The same way you double check with any other method you prefer? Duh. LLMs are vastly superior to compile and spread knowledge than any other thing preceding them.

Professionals who know there subject are still the best way

Re: Coursera to combine with Udemy

#104

Post by nickjj »

iris-digital wrote: post #89
nickjj wrote: post #83

I was a Udemy instructor for ~10 years selling tech courses but focused more on delivering courses through my own site for the last ~5-6 years. Something never felt right with how Udemy promoted courses. I used to have a top selling course there, selling thousands of copies a month and now it gets basically no sales but it's still one of the highest rated courses in that niche on their platform. It's just no longer r…

Speculating, but perhaps it needs to be updated once in a while? Last modified might be a (dumb) factor.

> Speculating, but perhaps it needs to be updated once in a while? Last modified might be a (dumb) factor.

It's a fair point. I have over time, such as updating libraries which produced new zip files and also modified lessons. It didn't move the needle for rankings, but it did update the timestamp.

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#105

Post by Blackthorn »

ghaff wrote: post #77
Blackthorn wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Dead end for what? Quality recordings of real lectures have been amazing for self improvement. I've never gone into it expecting a meaningful certificate, just meaning for me living my life.

You're probably in the small minority at least when it comes to forking over material dollars. Most people spending money, at least beyond trade paperback range, are probably looking for something that has at least a plausible connection to real income.

If that was true, no music teacher selling independent lessons would be able to survive.

Re: Coursera to combine with Udemy

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Post by nkmnz »

ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #68
torben-friis wrote: post #27

As someone who had to drop out of school in the 2008 crisis (family trouble), I owe a good chunk of my learning to the first era of online teaching. Those courses that were basically “we’re a top university and we let someone record the class from the back” were a literal life changer. Honestly, that was all I wanted. Everything that came after has been substantially worse. Work is gamified, teachers spend more time…

Almost my entire education has been OJT (On the Job Training). I'm a high school dropout, with a G.E.D. I've spent my entire life, looking up the noses of folks that just assume they are better than me. Gets a bit grating, but the plus side is, is that I have to prove myself, over, and over. Besides that annoyance, it's been excellent. Directing my own learning has been amazing. Having to prove myself, over and over,…

Tertiary education in Germany is pretty much a continuum. On one end, you have "Berufsakademien" that offer bachelor's degrees with integrated vocational training – you need to find the employer yourselves, they pay your fees and some salary that you can live off (more or less). On the other end, there's Ivory Tower Academia where no one cares about what happens outside of the classroom. And there is everything in between those two poles.

Re: Coursera to combine with Udemy

#108

Post by ghaff »

Blackthorn wrote: post #105
ghaff wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're probably in the small minority at least when it comes to forking over material dollars. Most people spending money, at least beyond trade paperback range, are probably looking for something that has at least a plausible connection to real income.

If that was true, no music teacher selling independent lessons would be able to survive.

It's not clear to me that independent tutors are generally getting rich. But there clearly are activities that benefit from individual training. I imagine music is one of those. But that mostly probably falls into the luxury goods category.

Re: Coursera to combine with Udemy

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Post by bdangubic »

bpt3 wrote: post #99
moralestapia wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The same way you double check with any other method you prefer? Duh. LLMs are vastly superior to compile and spread knowledge than any other thing preceding them.

They are faster, but I don't see how they are vastly superior to a course designed and offered by a subject matter expert in the field.

they have been trained on material not just by single subject matter expert but all of them :)
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