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Children with cancer scammed out of millions fundraised for their treatment

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Re: Children with cancer scammed out of millions fundraised for their treatment

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The root cause of the problem is that parents and children need to raise funds for cancer treatment in the first place.

I am curious: how else would you fund them? I sometimes donate & follow such cases and cancer treatments are expensive , especially experimental, custom ones. Worse, the rarer and more aggressive the disease - the more expensive the treatment and the slimmer the actual chances.

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Re: Children with cancer scammed out of millions fundraised for their treatment

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There was a period when I was constantly showered with these ads whenever I visited YouTube. It quickly became clear that it was some kind of scam, but YouTube didn't do anything about it for years.

Does clicking on the ad cost the spammer a lot of money

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Re: Children with cancer scammed out of millions fundraised for their treatment

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I have reported these ads to YouTube multiple times, because I tracked down their scam websites, but YouTube didn't delete them anyway. Common pattern they had was: - similar or same domains - same messaging on their website YouTube could have taken action, but it choose not to

I'm still waiting for the tech world to wake up and realise that the online ad machinery and user tracking software that the brightest minds of our generation have been working on are just a way to efficiently connect scammers with their unsuspecting victims.

Oh, they know that. It's very lucrative. At this point it's scams all the way up to the US presidential cryptocurrency.

However it's also a tricky business to be the adjudicator of what is and isn't a scam. You're going to have to deal with a lot of complaints from "legitimate businessmen".

Re: Children with cancer scammed out of millions fundraised for their treatment

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Whether or not non-productive individuals who don't do any work can own the means of production and reap the majority of the economic surplus from it is somewhat tangential to the question of who pays for whose healthcare. There are plenty of capitalist nations that provide public healthcare on a large spectrum of coverage and quality.

With 2 month long plus waits for basic scans in countries like Canada

Any system needs a resource allocation algorithm.

In capitalism it is easy and transparent: price, with the side effect of aligning society interests with those of the selfish individual.

Of course the strange and heavily regulated US health-care system is obviously far far away from a free market.

In socialism it's much more random: black markets, lists, lotteries, friends and network of connections. The side effect is that the most productive individuals are discouraged and punished, with the whole society lagging in effect.

Case in point: the EU that started lagging the USA so much in growth that ended up having to beg for basic defense when a blood-thirsty neighbor came hungry for land.

Re: Children with cancer scammed out of millions fundraised for their treatment

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As a former homeless person, good on you. I will say, don't feel pressured to, a chat or a nice comment actually means as much, it reminded me I was human.

Oh its usually accompanied with a chat, here in Germany often times they just need some money to stay the night somewhere. However some just tell you whatever story to get their next high. Whatever floats their boat, to me its just sad that such a rich country doesn't help them while actively making being homeless harder for them. It's almost christmas and really cold out there, I know there are so many people freezi…

Germany does help them, it just requires they either apply for work or prove that they are unfit for work. Not the most pleasant thing to do, sure, but no German is forced to beg on the streets.

Re: Children with cancer scammed out of millions fundraised for their treatment

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I have reported these ads to YouTube multiple times, because I tracked down their scam websites, but YouTube didn't delete them anyway. Common pattern they had was: - similar or same domains - same messaging on their website YouTube could have taken action, but it choose not to

There's no incentive for them to comply with your request. Like Facebook, scam ads are a revenue stream for Google. The profitability usually offsets any negative PR or fallout that results from these platforms turning a blind eye to the point where their budget accounts for some percentage of scam income, leaving them to pick and choose when to take action while they actively make their platform increasingly hostile to users who want to protect themselves from said ads.

Re: Children with cancer scammed out of millions fundraised for their treatment

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It's worth noting that if the suspect is in Israel, and he nerds to be tried in the US it might be an uphill battle trying to get him extradited. https://jacobin.com/2023/02/israel-law-of-return-extradition...

It’s so predictable by this point

Do you believe all countries should automatically extradiate every person any other country demands? Or that there should be a limit on such process?

Re: Children with cancer scammed out of millions fundraised for their treatment

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Capitalism is the reason those treatments exist in the first place. I don't see many cutting-edge cancer treatments coming out of Cuba, North Korea or Venezuela.

Those cutting edge cancer treatments come usually out of universities from publicly funded research.

But don't worry your free market friends are killing it right now, for tax reductions

https://www.wired.com/story/how-trump-killed-cancer-research...

Re: Children with cancer scammed out of millions fundraised for their treatment

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I always donate to the random homeless people stopping me on the street. Doesn't really matter to me what they do with it, whatever keeps them warm.

Unfortunately in Europe these can also be scams, there are some people who will dress up homeless but are actually just begging for profit. They're easy to recognize, because they're very forceful in their begging, relying more on intimidation than compassion. There really is no level people won't sink to for some money.

Some of those are also human trafficking victims (at least in Europe). There are gangs that illegally bring them over the border, force them to beg on the streets, and take the money they get.

The actual homeless people here have access to government support and shelters, those beggars don't as they're not here legally.

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