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Microsoft Copilot AI Comes to LG TVs, and Can't Be Deleted

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Post by nomel »

bdangubic wrote: post #75
bakugo wrote: post #31

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> As long as TV manufacturers let me run it offline without issue, I'm fine with that. I suspect that this won't be the case for much longer. Once you've stuffed the TV with all the ads and data harvesting you can, the logical next step is to ensure it doesn't work at all unless those ads are being watched and that data is being harvested.

I have used a projector my entire life, I have no idea why this isn’t a “thing” (especially with HN crowd-like communities)…

if you have a family with daytime viewing habits, projectors are basically a no go. 100" tv, with better brightness and black levels, are getting down to $2k range. they only make sense for > 100", and you'll be sacrificing some quality for a bit of viewing angle, usually recovered by scooting your couch a bit closer. i like bright, which is why i no longer go to theaters, which never did make the transition to HDR that they promised over a decade ago.

Re: Microsoft Copilot AI Comes to LG TVs, and Can't Be Deleted

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Post by KetoManx64 »

malfist wrote: post #68
drnick1 wrote: post #66

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> I'm so much happier using the Apple TV. Then it is Apple that is harvesting your data. They may or may not display ads (I don't have an AppleTV to check), but they are certainly logging your interactions and possibly selling that data with third parties. That is on top of all the data Apple already has on people using iPhones, and the reason why I will never use anything other than a free/libre ROM like Graphene or…

Its terrible Apple is spying on you. But the alternative is to have someone spying on you and forcing ads on you. Sophie's choice.

Mini PC with Linux + Jellyfin + web browser.

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Post by lamontcg »

colejohnson66 wrote: post #26
weikju wrote: post #14

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No, the boss is asking for more salt. Employees are then replacing sugar with salt and getting bonuses, no matter what the customer reactions are.

And then word gets around that you put salt in coffee instead of sugar, and people stop going to you. Unless you’re the only deli in town.

> Unless you’re the only deli in town.

pretty much.

back in the before times, we broke up AT&T, but we don't do that anymore.

Re: Microsoft Copilot AI Comes to LG TVs, and Can't Be Deleted

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Post by 112233 »

baby_souffle wrote: post #28
tzs wrote: post #24

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Those are completely separate. "Live Plus" is a TV setting that has nothing to do with Copilot and has been on their TVs for a long time.

> has been on their TVs for a long time. It's not just LG! They keep trying to shove "a return channel" into the latest ATSC standards for DRM and "enhanced / more accurate ratings".

How do I check the TV in store does not have modem with esim? Or at least detect and disable embedded cell modems at home?

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Post by tomkarho »

kankerlijer wrote: post #59
sangeeth96 wrote: post #50

For similar reasons many years back when I broke the bank for a G2, I decided to disconnect it forever. Besides the always-on spyware, every update broke something, which is incredibly frustrating considering the amount I spent. For instance, I got a GX soundbar for free with the TV which worked fine for 1–2 months until some update borked it and made it glitch out randomly. To date, none of their updates seem to hav…

Is it possible to use an LG without ever connecting it to the internet in the first place?

I am currently using one that is prevented from connecting to the internet via firewall rules from my router and all media comes from a separate jellyfin server. Had to allow enough of an internet access to install the app but once that was done, everything going outside lan is blocked.

Also most tvs have usb ports so maybe either raw media or some third part dongle can service as well?

Also also, most tvs of this caliber have hdmi you can plug your computer to.

Re: Microsoft Copilot AI Comes to LG TVs, and Can't Be Deleted

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Post by kaftoy »

dankwizard wrote: post #73

Thank god, the sooner we start to appreciate the wide spread adoption of AI the sooner we can start being more productive. A TV is the perfect place to introduce AI in terms of giving me content I should actually enjoy, and answering any questions I may have about what I'm watching. Kudos to LG for being the first.

Sure, but there is a prioritization system involved where the highest payer gets pushed first. So the AI may detemine you like X, but if the buyer only showing Y, you'll get to see ads for Y and no X.

Re: Microsoft Copilot AI Comes to LG TVs, and Can't Be Deleted

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Post by stackghost »

happymellon wrote: post #93
rolph wrote: post #6

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its none too good for LG either; also: i think this sort of behaviour is exactly how you chill updates of any sort. it may take a while but when it is publicly salient that updates are sophies choice, and large pie slices of devices stay stock and unconnected, that will dry up that watering hole. paranoia regarding un-updated devices will give way to paranoia regarding updates being used to screw you into something y…

I've had this with Android updates. When you remove my ability to see if a Bluetooth device is connected with a security update, why would I willingly install any more of your updates?

Which update are you referring to? I don't have this behavior on my Pixel, which updated itself yesterday.
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