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Workday project at Washington University hits $266M

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Re: Workday project at Washington University hits $266M

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I've always thought it would be interesting to be the guy called in to clean up these messes. That's where I'd love my career to go... being called in to turn around a sinking ship. Technology projects have a habit of going wildly off the rails, especially if you're not at ${bigTechCo} with a really mature software factory pumping out large projects consistently, so it seems like there'd be no shortage of mess to cle…

As a consultant, I do actually quite enjoy proper shitshow engagements - not least because, from a very selfish point of view, it's often possible to make a really obvious positive impact, which is really satisfying. For a situation as bad as the one described here, though, the scope for an individual engineer - no matter how experienced - to turn things around is going to be limited. The core problem is almost certa…

Agreed - I wouldn’t go in as an IC, I’d go in as leadership.

Re: Workday project at Washington University hits $266M

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post #92

It’s horrifying to peak into industries you’re unfamiliar with and see what’s going on. It’s like lifting up the rotting log on your property. You just want to quickly put it back down. WUSTL has more administrators than students: > Academic staff 4,551 (2024) > Administrative staff 17,979 (2024) > Students 16,399 (fall 2024) University of Munich, a prestigious university in German, has only 8,200 administrators for…

The medical school accounts for half of all staff but less than 10% of the students - your Munich numbers don't seem to include the affiliated hospital.

Re: Workday project at Washington University hits $266M

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post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am saying that. Salary + taxes + insurance + retirement + other benefits + support cost is around 670k. Salary eats up like 160k of that budget, though.

Payroll taxes on $160k salary are $12,240. Employer contribution to health insurance is maybe $6k - $20k. Retirement maybe $5k. Still under $200k. Heck of a lot of "support cost" to get to $670k

Your numbers make sense from what I've seen in private sector. And meet the common sense threshold as well.

Whether the numbers are either wrong or if that is truly what support costs look like at a university would be interesting to know.

Re: Workday project at Washington University hits $266M

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post #92

It’s horrifying to peak into industries you’re unfamiliar with and see what’s going on. It’s like lifting up the rotting log on your property. You just want to quickly put it back down. WUSTL has more administrators than students: > Academic staff 4,551 (2024) > Administrative staff 17,979 (2024) > Students 16,399 (fall 2024) University of Munich, a prestigious university in German, has only 8,200 administrators for…

One of our local, private, and financially troubled universities has their department hierarchy on line. I was amazed, while recently looking to get in contact with a person about auditing a class, how many "head of XXXX" positions existed in the university directory. It seems way more complicated that it needs to be, and I can see how they would be in financial dire straits.

Re: Workday project at Washington University hits $266M

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post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am saying that. Salary + taxes + insurance + retirement + other benefits + support cost is around 670k. Salary eats up like 160k of that budget, though.

Please provide a breakdown. I find this 4X of base salary implausibly high. 2X strikes me as closer to my reality at a large academic medical center.

I don't have a breakdown. It was a number cited to me from a manager. Downvotes are interesting.
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