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Re: LG TV's new software update installed MS Copilot, which cannot be deleted

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Post by strstr »

3RTB297 wrote: post #52
jitl wrote: post #29

We need a Framework-style company making TVs. Get the OLED panels from whoever makes them wholesale, spend on a beautiful enclosure / design, add just enough software to calibrate the image and switch between HDMI inputs with HDMI-CEC. Sell a premium soundbar as an add-on instead of including speakers in the base device. I think a brand like Sonos could make a killing in this market selling a premium dumb tv to high…

The hitch is that it would be more expensive, making it a "premium" product and limiting the market. Smart TV pricing typically includes subsidies based on the assumed data sales from each user over the lifetime of the device.

How much are my eyeballs worth over the lifetime of a TV?

In the race to the bottom, ads will outcompete others by pushing price lower. But how much lower?

Re: LG TV's new software update installed MS Copilot, which cannot be deleted

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Post by sheepscreek »

Why does a TV need Microsoft Copilot? While I think AI on the whole is a long-term net positive, but I just cannot understand Microsoft's insistence on putting Copilot everywhere. Even in places where it has no business being and against the user's wishes. I cannot remember the last time a company was this tone deaf. Why isn't Satya Nadella personally getting involved already? Seriously inexcusable.

Re: LG TV's new software update installed MS Copilot, which cannot be deleted

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Post by afavour »

jwr wrote: post #61
Neywiny wrote: post #2

As a proud member of the LGTV community (yes I'm making 2 of those kinds of jokes back to back, fight me), and an occasional reddit user, I'm both horrified by the notion of getting this update and thrilled people are still using old.reddit.com. The new layout, which isn't even new anymore, still falls very short for it I'm looking something up and it's buried in a comment thread where ctrl-f can't find it.

The management of reddit doesn't seem to use reddit at all and they seem to be unaware of the fact that a) the "new" layout just isn't that great, and b) their mobile app is terrible. They killed third-party apps, which were way better than their garbage app and they don't seem to realize how much it annoys their users.

I disagree, I think the new layout and the app are bad for Reddit power users. But for someone brand new to Reddit today they work fine.

And that’s the point. They care about boosting their user base, not satisfying power users.

Re: LG TV's new software update installed MS Copilot, which cannot be deleted

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Post by amelius »

jitl wrote: post #73
jokowueu wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wouldn't not connecting it online and using a google tv box fix this issue ?

I’ve used some of my friends more recent year TVs and even if they’re not networked the UX is just horrible. One Samsung model eliminated the “input” button on the remote and forces you to go through “Home” to select inputs in a tiled menu festooned with quick tips and baked in ads for Samsung stuff like SmartThings. The worst part is that if it detects an input is connected to a game console, then it moves that inpu…

We really need laws against products that are still tied to the vendor after you buy them.

If a product needs to be tied to the vendor, it is a service and it should not be sold as a product.

Re: LG TV's new software update installed MS Copilot, which cannot be deleted

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Post by afavour »

jokowueu wrote: post #59
jitl wrote: post #29

We need a Framework-style company making TVs. Get the OLED panels from whoever makes them wholesale, spend on a beautiful enclosure / design, add just enough software to calibrate the image and switch between HDMI inputs with HDMI-CEC. Sell a premium soundbar as an add-on instead of including speakers in the base device. I think a brand like Sonos could make a killing in this market selling a premium dumb tv to high…

Wouldn't not connecting it online and using a google tv box fix this issue ?

FWIW I do this with a TCL Roku TV and it’s fine. Not great, I still see the Roku interface for ~2secs on startup but otherwise it’s out of my way.

Re: LG TV's new software update installed MS Copilot, which cannot be deleted

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Post by bromuro »

gcr wrote: post #34
bromuro wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have poor eyesight and I don’t support this practice of linking old reddit on HN. Old website is unusable for me. I have to load the link in the native app to read it. ctrl+F doesn’t work anyway as the comments are also buried in a “load more comments” on old reddit too. New website and app have a search comments field.

I have shitty eyesight and old is the only version that’s usable to me because text zooming works far better in the old layout. Are you using a screen reader by any chance?

Screen reader is not available on Safari for old reddit. Also zooming the font is not working: I have to scroll a lot and the layout grt all broken.

Re: LG TV's new software update installed MS Copilot, which cannot be deleted

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Post by xfil »

shinycode wrote: post #33

Awful software, I use an Apple TV or firestick to replace it

TV industry's in a pathetic state when customers reasonably consider Apple TVs to be required included costs. In other news, my new 'smart' GE oven crashes roughly once each month into unresponsiveness for several hours. Where's an Apple Oven to save the day?

Re: LG TV's new software update installed MS Copilot, which cannot be deleted

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Post by varispeed »

jitl wrote: post #92
varispeed wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We need regulators that look after interests of tax payers and not after who pays for regulator's yachts.

Well I’m not sure if you can regulate having good design and user experience. Certainly the ability to roll back updates and enforcing privacy though.

It is simple. Let user remove any unwanted software and don't install anything new (as in new apps), without user consent.

Re: LG TV's new software update installed MS Copilot, which cannot be deleted

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Post by molticrystal »

traverseda wrote: post #9
stevesimmons wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Am I going mad or do some of those old.reddit comments slope downhill?

No, the subreddit has applied custom css to do that. It's the mildly infuriating subreddit. There's also an image of a hair visible on widescreen monitors, to make you think there's a hair on your display.

They have a bag of dirty tricks [0], here are a few highlights including a couple already mentioned:

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        border-radius: 50%;
        box-shadow: 2px 0 rgb(60, 24, 24, 0.3);
        transform: skewX(-30deg) scale(0.6);
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    .thing.comment[id*=c] {
        transform: rotate(1deg);
        margin-top: 30px !important;
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    .comment p a{
        font-family:Comic Sans MS, Impact,serif;
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[0] https://www.reddit.com/r/mildlyinfuriating/wiki/config/style...
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