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Mistral releases Devstral2 and Mistral Vibe CLI

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Re: Mistral releases Devstral2 and Mistral Vibe CLI

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post #33

llm install llm-mistral llm mistral refresh llm -m mistral/devstral-2512 "Generate an SVG of a pelican riding a bicycle" https://tools.simonwillison.net/svg-render#%3Csvg%20xmlns%3D... Pretty good for a 123B model! (That said I'm not 100% certain I guessed the correct model ID, I asked Mistral here: https://x.com/simonw/status/1998435424847675429 )

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Re: Mistral releases Devstral2 and Mistral Vibe CLI

#102
post #12

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They’ll switch to military tech the second it becomes necessary, don’t kid yourself. I’m just glad we have a European alternative for the day the US decides to turn its back on us. This tech is simply too critical to pretend the military won’t use it. That’s clearer now than ever, especially after the (so far flop-ish) launch of the U.S. military’s own genAI platform.

> I’m just glad we have a European alternative for the day the US decides to turn its back on us Not sure you've kept up to date, US have turned their backs on most allies so far including Europe and the EU, and now welcome previous enemies with open arms.

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Re: Mistral releases Devstral2 and Mistral Vibe CLI

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post #77
post #33

llm install llm-mistral llm mistral refresh llm -m mistral/devstral-2512 "Generate an SVG of a pelican riding a bicycle" https://tools.simonwillison.net/svg-render#%3Csvg%20xmlns%3D... Pretty good for a 123B model! (That said I'm not 100% certain I guessed the correct model ID, I asked Mistral here: https://x.com/simonw/status/1998435424847675429 )

but can it recreate the spacejam 1996 website? https://www.spacejam.com/1996/jam.html

That is not a meaningful metric given that we don't live in 1996 and neither do our web standards.

Re: Mistral releases Devstral2 and Mistral Vibe CLI

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imo this is a hill people need to stop dying on. Open source means "I can see the source" to most of the world. Wishing it meant "very permissively licensed" to everyone is a lost cause. And honestly it wasn't a good hill to begin with: if what you are talking about is the license, call it "open license". The source code is out in the open, so it is "open source". This is why the purists have lost ground to practical…

> Open source means "I can see the source" to most of the world well we don't really want to open that can of worms though, do we? I don't agree with ceding technical terms to the rest of the world. I'm increasingly told we need to stop calling cancer detection AI "AI" or "ML" because it is not the 'bad AI' and confuses people. I guess I'm okay with being intransigent.

If you are happy that time is being spent quibbling over definitions instead of actually focusing on the ideal, I'm not sure you care about the ideals as much as you say you do.

Who gives a shit what we call "cancer AI", what matters is the result.

Re: Mistral releases Devstral2 and Mistral Vibe CLI

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imo this is a hill people need to stop dying on. Open source means "I can see the source" to most of the world. Wishing it meant "very permissively licensed" to everyone is a lost cause. And honestly it wasn't a good hill to begin with: if what you are talking about is the license, call it "open license". The source code is out in the open, so it is "open source". This is why the purists have lost ground to practical…

> imo this is a hill people need to stop dying on. As someone who was born and raised on FOSS, and still mostly employed to work on FOSS, I disagree. Open source is what it is today because it's built by people with a spine who stand tall for their ideals even if it means less money, less industry recognition, lots of unglorious work and lots of other negatives. It's not purist to believe that what built open source…

> Open source is what it is today because it's built by people with a spine who stand tall for their ideals even if it means less money, less industry recognition, lots of unglorious work and lots of other negatives.

With all due respect, don't you see the irony in saying "people with a spine who stand tall for their ideals", and then arguing that attaching "restrictions" which only affect the richest megacorporations in the world somehow makes the license not permissive anymore?

What ideals are those exactly? So that megacorporations have the right to use the software without restrictions? And why should we care about that?

Re: Mistral releases Devstral2 and Mistral Vibe CLI

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I was briefly excited when Mistral Vibe launched and mentions "0 MCP Servers" in its startup screen... but I can't find how to configure any MCP servers. It doesn't respond to the /mcp command, and asking Devstral 2 for help, it thinks MCP is "Model Context Preservation". I'd really like to be able to run my local MCP tools that I wrote in Golang. I'm team Anthropic with Claude Max & Claude Code, but I'm still excite…

Check this out: https://github.com/mistralai/mistral-vibe?tab=readme-ov-file...

Thank you! Finally got it working, had to comment out the mcp_servers line near the top of the config.toml file in ~/.vibe/, before adding my [[mcp_servers]] sections at the end of the file.

That was very helpful, thanks!

Re: Mistral releases Devstral2 and Mistral Vibe CLI

#109
post #33

llm install llm-mistral llm mistral refresh llm -m mistral/devstral-2512 "Generate an SVG of a pelican riding a bicycle" https://tools.simonwillison.net/svg-render#%3Csvg%20xmlns%3D... Pretty good for a 123B model! (That said I'm not 100% certain I guessed the correct model ID, I asked Mistral here: https://x.com/simonw/status/1998435424847675429 )

We are getting to the point that its not unreasonable to think that "Generate an SVG of a pelican riding a bicycle" could be included in some training data. It would be a great way to ensure an initial thumbs up from a prominent reviewer. It's a good benchmark but it seems like it would be a good idea to include an additional random or unannounced similar test to catch any benchmaxxing.

Re: Mistral releases Devstral2 and Mistral Vibe CLI

#110
post #37

> Devstral 2 ships under a modified MIT license, while Devstral Small 2 uses Apache 2.0. Both are open-source and permissively licensed to accelerate distributed intelligence. Uh, the "Modified MIT license" here[0] for Devstral 2 doesn't look particularly permissively licensed (or open-source): > 2. You are not authorized to exercise any rights under this license if the global consolidated monthly revenue of your com…

Is such a term even enforceable? How would it be? How could Mistral know how much a company makes if that information isn't public?

They don't have to enforce it, evil megacorps won't risk the legal consequences of using it without talking to Mistral first. In reality they just won't use it.
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