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Re: Jolla Phone Pre-Order

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Post by getpokedagain »

mariusor wrote: post #77
getpokedagain wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Am I the only one who just feels burnt out on these type of projects? We have a plethora of raspberry pi and other arm mobile developer kits that all just fail to deliver. They make great pet projects but fail at what most mobile phones do great which is provide a computer I can reliably and safely take with me in life. This pilet thing has 7 hours of battery life, is huge and will probably explode if I put it in my…

I'm not sure what you think Jolla is, but they have a track record of releasing phones that are good enough to be used as daily drivers. They are also targeting enthusiasts, but I've been using exclusively phones that run Sailfish OS (their main product) since 2014.

Sorry if my post is confusing I'm referring to the poster I replied to mentioning the Pilet which is a raspberry pi based project. Jolla phone I really can't speak too. It sounds closer to graphene where they understand the benefit of reasonable hardware quality and battery life.

Re: Jolla Phone Pre-Order

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Post by rob74 »

dijit wrote: post #93
SoftTalker wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> colour accuracy, frame-rate Absolutely irrelevant for what I do with a phone, and I'd wager that 90% of users would not notice the difference.

Are you really telling me that people wouldn't look at the spec-sheet and state (loudly) that they won't buy a phone because "in 2025 it doesn't even have 120fps"? I don't believe you if that's the case.

I'm not the OP, but if you ask me, I'll tell you that I think most phone users out there don't even know what a fps is, let alone how many fps their smartphone has...

Re: Jolla Phone Pre-Order

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Post by colinstrickland »

dman wrote: post #69
abnercoimbre wrote: post #12

> Entering other markets, such as the U.S. and Canada are to be decided due course based on potential interest from the areas. As an American, I will order this phone as soon as it’s available to me! I’m not aware of any similar option for us at the moment so I’m a little sad.

They have a history of not shipping. They took my money for a tablet pre-order but never shipped anything. Didnt offer refunds either.

they did indeed have a crowdfunded tablet that went wrong in supply chain, and basically bankrupted the company. Many funders lost out. That's unfortunate, and perhaps might have been avoidable with better organisation. Absolutely it sucks. They did have a limited refund program as others have noted.

However, they do not have a continous history of not shipping. I personally owned their two previous phone handsets, both shipped. Also I've bought and run their firmwares on third party handsets, they also shipped the software.

Re: Jolla Phone Pre-Order

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Post by mariusor »

stiray wrote: post #82

I wouldnt recommend it. TLDR: while the OS is great (really GREAT), the real-world compatibility is not. I had Sailfish OS for a daily driver for two years, and OS is great (let me say that again, Sailfish IS GREAT!), but there are "the details". Jolla is completely ignorant to needs of their users. While they do have an android layer, they are ignoring to things that are of huge importance for daily life, like bluet…

For a company of their size that has to compete in the tech market of today, I'm surprised they're able to produce updates for the OS as regular as they do.

Blaming they can't keep up with user requests, granted reasonable ones, is a little short sighted in my opinion. If we want to break the Apple/Google duopoly we need to be able to bear a couple of paper cuts. If you wait for perfection before committing they'll just end up going out of business. :(

Re: Jolla Phone Pre-Order

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Post by Telaneo »

nikanj wrote: post #88
mhitza wrote: post #18

47% percent of voters wanted a ~6" phone, and 12% of voters a ~7" phone. I guess me and the remaining 41% of voters are still left wishing for 5" phones to make a comeback.

Every now and then some phone manufacturer mistakes online sentiment for actual demand and gets burned making a mini phone that won’t sell

What 5-ish inch screen phone has even been released within the past 5 years? The only ones I can think of are the Unihertz phones, and those don't get a single update after getting shoved out the door, not to mention that they're probably full of Chinese backdoors. I'd buy that exact phone in a heartbeat if it didn't have those problems, and all the other ones I've seen have similar dealbreakers.

Re: Jolla Phone Pre-Order

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Post by m4rtink »

stiray wrote: post #82

I wouldnt recommend it. TLDR: while the OS is great (really GREAT), the real-world compatibility is not. I had Sailfish OS for a daily driver for two years, and OS is great (let me say that again, Sailfish IS GREAT!), but there are "the details". Jolla is completely ignorant to needs of their users. While they do have an android layer, they are ignoring to things that are of huge importance for daily life, like bluet…

I would not sey they are ignorant - rather, some things are unfortunately just not possible with their staffing and budget. Connecting Android bluetooth blobs compiled against bionic libc via glibc Linux distro to a container running Android emulation is one of these things.

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Post by pessimizer »

kogepathic wrote: post #32

Hard no on giving Jolla a cent. Jolla rug-pulled [1] people who crowd-funded [2] their tablet in 2014. Jolla used the crowd-funding campaign to butter up VCs for their next funding round [3] and then decided the Asian LLC handling the crowdfunding would go bankrupt, leaving backers with no tablets and most with no refund. [4] The real kicker was that the tablets were ALREADY manufactured by their ODM, Jolla just neve…

> leaving backers with no tablets and most with no refund.

I'm pretty sure we eventually all got refunds after they got the Russian cash. My refund came a couple years later iirc, with a check for half the amount coming a few months before the check for the second half.

Re: Jolla Phone Pre-Order

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Post by mariusor »

fodmap wrote: post #26

Don't confuse Jolla https://jolla.com/ with Volla https://volla.online/en/index.php Both are European companys with a great privacy drive.

And to my eternal puzzlement here's two companies that are made for one another and so far they've never worked together on a project. SMH...
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