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Making RSS More Fun

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Re: Making RSS More Fun

#101

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Digg has recently re-launched. It’s in beta currently. I got in a couple weeks ago.

Unfortunately it just looks to be a Reddit clone now.

Yeah I have a beta invite and the content and comments are 1:1 the same as Reddit, exactly the type of content that I do not want to read.

Re: Making RSS More Fun

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The idea that you have to read everything is a reader UI design flaw. By presenting feeds as an inbox, it gives the impression of RSS feeds being email. And that's not right, it can be, but it doesn't have to be. The TikTok model is about scrolling, skipping, being selective. RSS readers should be treated the same way. "River of news" is an RSS thing. You dive in when stuff interests you, and you let what doesn't int…

Twitter was . Not is . And I'm not talking about the name change.

Re: Making RSS More Fun

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post #100

The idea that you have to read everything is a reader UI design flaw. By presenting feeds as an inbox, it gives the impression of RSS feeds being email. And that's not right, it can be, but it doesn't have to be. The TikTok model is about scrolling, skipping, being selective. RSS readers should be treated the same way. "River of news" is an RSS thing. You dive in when stuff interests you, and you let what doesn't int…

I prefer the inbox to the river. It's not that difficult to scan my (categorised) inbox and “mark all as read” for a given feed. But then again, I don't subscribe to too many things, and quickly unsubscribe from feeds that publish too often. There is a blog for fathers that publishes every day. No, thanks, I need to digest what I've read last week.

I find this topic of link aggregation, feeds and readlists highly interesting and believe that herein lies the solution for a new web similar to like reddit basically imagined it, before going full commercial.

Both presented ways in looking at an RSS feed make sense and come with their own set of pros and cons. But to me it looks like it is entirely possible and the best solution to treat it as both at the same time: the feed is a stream, but you treat it as an inbox not for the items that are streamed themselves (e.g. blog entries), but as the notification that they exist. So, I will try out in the future to keep three lanes: a readlis, where you store the things you want to read, a read-it where you store the things you actually read already and the RSS-feed aggregor "inbox" where you marked things as read if you decided to either put it on the readlist or not. So the read-marker of the RSS-feed aggregor becomes a "noted-it" button.

A fourth lane that forwards interesting reads or notifications could be the building brick of a new internet, where you aggregate things from people you like or trust and index them as your personalised search engine.

Re: Making RSS More Fun

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post #100

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I prefer the inbox to the river. It's not that difficult to scan my (categorised) inbox and “mark all as read” for a given feed. But then again, I don't subscribe to too many things, and quickly unsubscribe from feeds that publish too often. There is a blog for fathers that publishes every day. No, thanks, I need to digest what I've read last week.

I find this topic of link aggregation, feeds and readlists highly interesting and believe that herein lies the solution for a new web similar to like reddit basically imagined it, before going full commercial. Both presented ways in looking at an RSS feed make sense and come with their own set of pros and cons. But to me it looks like it is entirely possible and the best solution to treat it as both at the same time:…

Yeah, everything you've said makes good sense. At the end of the day RSS is just a decent protocol for these purposes, even if more modern alternatives exist. But I think these modern alternatives are better for your purposes.

Re: Making RSS More Fun

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post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I find this topic of link aggregation, feeds and readlists highly interesting and believe that herein lies the solution for a new web similar to like reddit basically imagined it, before going full commercial. Both presented ways in looking at an RSS feed make sense and come with their own set of pros and cons. But to me it looks like it is entirely possible and the best solution to treat it as both at the same time:…

Yeah, everything you've said makes good sense. At the end of the day RSS is just a decent protocol for these purposes, even if more modern alternatives exist. But I think these modern alternatives are better for your purposes.

Do you have specific things in mind to which you refer as more modern alternatives?

Re: Making RSS More Fun

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post #104

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Yeah, everything you've said makes good sense. At the end of the day RSS is just a decent protocol for these purposes, even if more modern alternatives exist. But I think these modern alternatives are better for your purposes.

Do you have specific things in mind to which you refer as more modern alternatives?

I had looked into JSON Feed or WebSub as a layer on feeds. I'm not sure it's possible but the federated thingies like ActivityPub might also give the same result, especially since Ghost supports it natively in the dashboard.

Re: Making RSS More Fun

#108

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To praise TikTok it has a highly effective recommendation engine precisely because it is showing you one piece of content at a time and registering your engagement on that. YouTube's interface gives people a feeling of agency because it tempts you with 10 or so videos on the side and you can choose one, it also means YouTube does not get information about the 9 you didn't click, maybe you would have liked 5 of them a…

> YouTube does not get information about the 9 you didn't click, maybe you would have liked 5 of them Meanwhile, I end up with 5 new tabs open...

I use it that way quite often but wish really the recs were more stable and I didn’t have to.
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