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UK Government plans new powers to label dissenting movements as 'subversion'

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Re: UK Government plans new powers to label dissenting movements as 'subversion'

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Post by whynotmaybe »

fakedang wrote: post #21
ekjhgkejhgk wrote: post #11

I wish they would label Russian and Chinese influence as subversion. But knowing the UK, they'll probably use it to jail people who post mean things on twitter.

Already on it. https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/uk/british-man-arr...

Gonna need a follow up on that one.

> was then interrogated over the picture and another photo of a house he shared on social media – which he told police he had never been to and was taken by someone else.

> The allegations about stalking and illegal possession of a firearm were dropped, but he was then charged with a public order offence for a different social media post.

Either the police is exaggerating, either this guy is exaggerating... or a little bit of both?

https://metro.co.uk/2025/11/29/british-man-arrested-posing-g...

Re: UK Government plans new powers to label dissenting movements as 'subversion'

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Post by PunchyHamster »

aranw wrote: post #70

There is probably a legitimate basis for some powers against actual foreign intelligence operations. But the proposals in the article defining "subversion" to include environmental activism, independence movements, or criticism of UK policy show how quickly these things expand beyond their original scope. The Terrorism Act was meant to exclude domestic activists but two decades later it has been used against protest…

As is tradition. Put the tool in the toolbox, label it "it's for bad guys" to sell it to people, oh no, govt used it for something else, what a surprise.

And even if current government is 100% benevolent, just putting the tool in the toolbox means any subsequent govt, that might not be that, can use it.

Re: UK Government plans new powers to label dissenting movements as 'subversion'

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Post by monooso »

philjohn wrote: post #20
ekjhgkejhgk wrote: post #11

I wish they would label Russian and Chinese influence as subversion. But knowing the UK, they'll probably use it to jail people who post mean things on twitter.

"Mean tweets" and incitement to commit violence are mutually exclusive.

So you're saying a tweet inciting violence isn't mean.

Re: UK Government plans new powers to label dissenting movements as 'subversion'

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Post by willahmad »

Why is it my earlier comment with so many upvotes got [flagged] ?

Is it because I mentioned the entity name?

Here is the comment:

"It’s ironic how the West has long championed democracy, demanded freedom of speech, and called for human rights from everyone. Only to suddenly adopt authoritarian, anti-free speech, anti-human rights, and anti-protest stances the moment free speech began to critique Israel.

It’s truly shameful to see such developments."

Re: UK Government plans new powers to label dissenting movements as 'subversion'

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Post by tim333 »

>Government plans new powers to label ... as ‘subversion’

As far as I can see is a lie the website has made up. None of their links include the word subversion. Subversion is not part of British law https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subversion#United_Kingdom

Is there some reality to this or is the website just making stuff up to object to some things they dislike?

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