Self-hosting a Matrix server for 5 years

Post by XorNot » Mon, Dec 01, 2025, 9:52 PM UTC

tenthirtyam wrote: post #24

dust-jacket wrote: post #15

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Yeah I thought this was a weird take too. Too often people take privacy for "I can do what I like". IMO deleting something you've sent to someone else is not a privacy concern at all.

IIRC it is possible to have some clever encryption so that the person you sent your message to can prove to their own satisfaction that it came from you, but they cannot prove to anyone else that it came from you. Which gives you plausible deniability; you can always claim that your contact forged the message. Can't remember what the algorithm is called.

Post by chickensong » Mon, Dec 01, 2025, 10:04 PM UTC

pelzatessa wrote: post #83

Been selfhosting synapse for about 1.5 years in a docker compose setup using bunkerweb (formerly "bunkerized nginx", which better explains it premise) reverse proxy, eturnal for TURN and postgres, also recently added livekit and MAS for element call and element X compatibility. All that runs on a small 2vcore/4gb VPS, and it runs pretty good, I experience a server crash every half a month, but that may be caused by t…

Post by Teever » Mon, Dec 01, 2025, 10:19 PM UTC

0x1ch wrote: post #72

lousken wrote: post #34

Same setup here since 2017. Since then, RAM usage decreased by 60%. The admin panel is not something I'd need but it would be a nice-to-have. Started with postgres as I wouldn't go for anything else if I wanna use it for decades. It has 2.5GBs for 10users and I don't mind if it takes 10 or 20, that's something I expected. Never did a cleanup of anything, I just dumped the db and moved to OVH recently onto a new VPS w…

Whatever is going on in Matrix land isn't stable enough for most people to switch. I gave up after they broke their calling system after changing something to this livekit system. It doesn't work, my existing TURN server became useless, and Matrix was left as a very slow chat application. I'm over it.

Post by Arathorn » Mon, Dec 01, 2025, 10:53 PM UTC

omnimus wrote: post #103

Barathkanna wrote: post #46

TLDR Self-hosting isn’t dying because people stopped caring. It’s dying because the complexity has gotten out of hand. This post highlights how something that used to be a fun, lightweight hobby has turned into a full-time maintenance burden. Systems like Matrix are powerful, but they’ve become so intricate that even skilled engineers struggle to run them reliably. The result is a slow drift back toward centralized p…

I would say it became much easier in recent years. docker-compose became defacto server "app install", any linux supports it. That includes GUI options like Truenas/Unraid and very nice admins like Dockge exist. The company behind matrix is aiming at huge scale servers but if you care about unfederated private instances you will find there are few much simpler "one binary" projects that can even use file based sqlite…

Post by warkdarrior » Mon, Dec 01, 2025, 10:58 PM UTC

Almondsetat wrote: post #16

a3w wrote: post #13

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Right, but we did have efforts to take over hardware security enclaves to deliver user data, instead of copyrighted company data, to user devices. Tim Berners-Lee tries to make the internet a place where you can choose, what it "forgets". At least that were the news I got from the 2010s and early 2020s. As for how: DRM-like tech in the hands of users should allow for that. So having privacy by design would be nice, a…

>Tim Berners-Lee tries to make the internet a place where you can choose, what it "forgets". At least that were the news I got from the 2010s and early 2020s. Tim Berners-Lee created the web, not the internet, which is what chat apps use. Also, unless you can provide some direct quotes about it being designed for "forgetting" stuff, I have no idea where these "news" you got came from. >As for how: DRM-like tech in th…