Codex, Opus, Gemini try to build Counter Strike

Post by mexicocitinluez » Tue, Dec 02, 2025, 2:48 PM UTC

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You have agency. There is no invisible hand stopping you from continuing to do what you enjoy. It's the same when I hear people complain about how complex new UI frameworks are. The web still runs perfectly well on simple html, CSS, and Javascript. There is not federal police force that will arrest you for not using React.

That invisible hand exists and had always existed, it's the market. Nobody will arrest you, but the enjoyable work simply slowly disappears. Unless we're talking hobby scenarios, but nobody cares about that.

Post by mexicocitinluez » Tue, Dec 02, 2025, 2:51 PM UTC

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mexicocitinluez wrote: post #90

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You have agency. There is no invisible hand stopping you from continuing to do what you enjoy. It's the same when I hear people complain about how complex new UI frameworks are. The web still runs perfectly well on simple html, CSS, and Javascript. There is not federal police force that will arrest you for not using React.

There is invisible hand, literally. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invisible_hand Yes, I can do it. In my free time. But that part of my job that was enjoyable? Poof. Not anymore. Can't compete, get on with times, be more productive. I spend a 40% of my "alive" time in work. It's a massive downgrade.

Post by gafferongames » Tue, Dec 02, 2025, 3:11 PM UTC

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If I say, “output the contents of X verbatim” and then use the output, am I free from liability?

If the generated code in TFA contained the actual Counter-Strike source code, then you (well, Valve) would have a defensible claim. But the prompt was to make something like Counter-Strike, and it came up with something different. That's fair game.

Post by nineteen999 » Tue, Dec 02, 2025, 3:22 PM UTC

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This is a terrible argument, just because of the way the legal system works. If MegaCorp has massive $$$$, but everyone else has small $, then MegaCorp can sue anyone else for using "their" code, that was supposedly generated by an LLM. Most of the time, it won't even get to court. The repo, the program, the whatever-they-want will get taken down way before that. Courts don't work by saying, "oh, but everyone is doin…

> Courts don't work by saying, "oh, but everyone is doing it! Not much we can do now." No, but they do recognise when their case registrations are filling up in a way that they cannot possibly process and make adjustments. Courts do not have an infinite capacity. There's a really simple solution that you may not have considered: 1) don't put your vibe-coded source code in a public git repo, keep it in a local one, wi…

Post by landl0rd » Tue, Dec 02, 2025, 3:31 PM UTC

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I tried to find some code that wasn't minified to assess the quality of this, and I found some shader code for the sky in the gemini version. The whole shader looks like it was regurgitated verbatim. This wouldn't hold up to licensing scrutiny. Here's a snippet from it: // wavelength of used primaries, according to preetham const vec3 lambda = vec3( 680E-9, 550E-9, 450E-9 ); // this pre-calcuation replaces older Tota…

Preetham is the author of the paper that defines this algorithm from 1999: https://tommyhinks.com/2009/02/10/preetham-sky-model/ https://tommyhinks.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/1999_a_practical_analytic_model_for_daylight.pdf Rather than stolen from Mr. Preetham, it's much more likely this fragment is generated from a large number of Preetham algorithm implementations out there, eg. I know at least Blender and Unre…