So, like, we were already pretty much priced out of higher-end graphic cards, and now it's happening to RAM. All this while jobs are disappearing, layoffs are ongoing and CEOs are touting AI's 'capabilities' left and right. Next is probably CPUs, even if AIs don't use them that much, manufactures will shift production to something more profitable, then gouge prices so that only enterprises will pay for them. What's n…
PS5 now costs less than 64GB of DDR5 memory. RAM jumps to $600 due to shortage
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Re: PS5 now costs less than 64GB of DDR5 memory. RAM jumps to $600 due to shortage
#102Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's a sad trend for "the rest of us" and history in general. The economic boom of the 80's thru the 2010s has been a vast democratization of computation - hardware became more powerful and affordable, and algorithms (at least broadly if not individually) became more efficient. We all had supercomputers in our pockets. This AI movement seems to move things in the opposite direction, in that us plebeians have less and…
> This AI movement seems to move things in the opposite direction, in that us plebeians have less and less access to RAM, computing power and food and...uh...GPUs to play Cyberpunk; and are dependent on Altermanic aristocracy to dribble compute onto us at their leisure and for a hefty tithe. Compute is cheaper than ever. The ceiling is just higher for what you can buy. Yes, we have $2000 GPUs now. You don't have to b…
Re: PS5 now costs less than 64GB of DDR5 memory. RAM jumps to $600 due to shortage
#103So, like, we were already pretty much priced out of higher-end graphic cards, and now it's happening to RAM. All this while jobs are disappearing, layoffs are ongoing and CEOs are touting AI's 'capabilities' left and right. Next is probably CPUs, even if AIs don't use them that much, manufactures will shift production to something more profitable, then gouge prices so that only enterprises will pay for them. What's n…
Re: PS5 now costs less than 64GB of DDR5 memory. RAM jumps to $600 due to shortage
#104I picked up a PS5 today on a Black Friday deal for 350EUR. 32GB DDR5 is at around 280EUR at the moment. I have a gaming PC, it runs Linux because (speaking as a Microsoft sysadmin with 10 years under my belt) I hate what Windows has become, but on commodity hardware it’s not quite there for me. Thought I’d play the PlayStation backlog while I wait for the Steam Machine.
Re: PS5 now costs less than 64GB of DDR5 memory. RAM jumps to $600 due to shortage
#105When did a PS5 become a unit of cost? For reference seems to be about 0.002 London buses
Gaming consoles are something people buy. Any parent or gamer has an idea what they cost.
People do not buy London Buses themself
Re: PS5 now costs less than 64GB of DDR5 memory. RAM jumps to $600 due to shortage
#106It will be interesting to see the knock on effect of some upcoming consumer electronics; for example Apple was rumored to be working on a cheaper MacBook that uses an iPad CPU, and Valve is working on a SteamOS based gaming machine. Both will likely live/die based on price .
Big manufacturers also order their DRAM in advance with contractually negotiated pricing. They're not paying these spot market prices for every computer they ship.
Re: PS5 now costs less than 64GB of DDR5 memory. RAM jumps to $600 due to shortage
#107So, like, we were already pretty much priced out of higher-end graphic cards, and now it's happening to RAM. All this while jobs are disappearing, layoffs are ongoing and CEOs are touting AI's 'capabilities' left and right. Next is probably CPUs, even if AIs don't use them that much, manufactures will shift production to something more profitable, then gouge prices so that only enterprises will pay for them. What's n…
Re: PS5 now costs less than 64GB of DDR5 memory. RAM jumps to $600 due to shortage
#108So, like, we were already pretty much priced out of higher-end graphic cards, and now it's happening to RAM. All this while jobs are disappearing, layoffs are ongoing and CEOs are touting AI's 'capabilities' left and right. Next is probably CPUs, even if AIs don't use them that much, manufactures will shift production to something more profitable, then gouge prices so that only enterprises will pay for them. What's n…
Electricity prices are already skyrocketing, it's present - not next.
That can be a bigger problem for civilization.
Re: PS5 now costs less than 64GB of DDR5 memory. RAM jumps to $600 due to shortage
#109Earlier quoted context omitted.
Gaming drove the development of GPUs which led to the current AI boom. Smartphones drove small process nodes for power efficiency.
SGI and 3Dfx made high-end simulators for aerospace in the beginning. Gaming grew out of that. Even Intel's first GPU (the i740) came from GE Aerospace.
Games were always going to go 3d sooner or later, the real pressure of the high volume competitive market got us more and more capable chips until they were capable enough for the kind of computation needed for neural networks faster than a slow moving specialty market could have.
Re: PS5 now costs less than 64GB of DDR5 memory. RAM jumps to $600 due to shortage
#110AI/LLM companies will pay TSMC more than Apple is willing to further subsidize this neat little box.