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Pebble Watch software is now open source

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Re: Pebble Watch software is now open source

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> Yesterday, Pebble watch software was ~95% open source. Today, it’s 100% open source. You can download, compile and run all the software you need to use your Pebble. We just published the source code for the new Pebble mobile app! Except... > Another important note - some binary blobs and other non-free software components are used today in PebbleOS and the Pebble mobile app (ex: the heart rate sensor on PT2 , Memfa…

95% is 100% free

Re: Pebble Watch software is now open source

#102
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Please note our CLA explicitly include a clause to require Core Devices to distribute all contributions under an OSI-compatible FOSS license (e.g. GPLv3). So no contributions can be 'stolen'. https://ericmigi.notion.site/Core-Devices-Software-Licensing...

But OSI-compatible FOSS licenses include pushover ones like MIT, so even though you couldn't steal all of the contributions to make a proprietary fork, any other company then could.

well, their new app mentioned in the post is GPL.

but in the rest of the ecosystem a bunch of the inherited code is already Apache or MIT. so, i presume you have already forked the other repos to relicense them. can you drop a link?

Re: Pebble Watch software is now open source

#103
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My current smartwatch is $7 I got from the thrift store. Not only does it offer everything an Apple Watch offers, but it also measures blood pressure (surprisingly accurate) and has a small flashlight, and I charge it once every 3 weeks. The only issue is its app is limited and you can’t customize anything besides the watch faces and the wrist strap. So having that, it’s really hard to compete if you are just going t…

Do you know what algorithm or sensors it uses to calculate BP?

Re: Pebble Watch software is now open source

#104
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Also includes news about a new Appstore, which can probably be seen as a reaction to the stories from last week: We’ve created our own Pebble Appstore feed (appstore-api.repebble.com) and new Developer Dashboard. Our feed (fyi powered by 100% new software) is configured to back up an archive of all apps and faces to Archive.org (backup will gradually complete over the next week). Today, our feed only has a subset of…

I read the drama last week, and after seeing this, I have to side with Rebble. I think they kept the community alive since Eric M cashed out and Fitbit shut it down. As the stars have aligned in recent years, Eric revives Pebble, but if Rebble wouldn't spend all the effort maintaining the app store, his consumer base would be much smaller and it would be much harder to bootstrap again. With Repebble (Core Devices) an…

> They deserve credit which they won't be able to claim anymore.

Why won't they be able to claim credit for the work that they did the past because of other people's work in the present?

> Also, to me, Eric talking doesn't sound authentic, and I wouldn't be surprised if he's lying. I don't mean to insult though, mad respect for putting project like Pebble together.

What the heck are you trying to do here if not insult him? It seems wild to say he sounds inauthentic and you think he's potentially lying, and then try to hedge by saying that's not intended as an insult.

Re: Pebble Watch software is now open source

#105
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IDK about Coros or Suunto, but the only Garmins with a battery life approaching 30 days cost ~$1,000. This could be competition for AWU, but wouldn't communicate that there is demand for a more basic/long-lasting Apple Watch.

Smart watches with long battery life exist. Garmin watches generally have ~2 week battery life: * Venu 3 for $350 has 2 week battery life [1] * Forerunner 55 for $150 has 2 week battery life [2] I don't see why you are defining success as 30 days of battery life when the baseline is charging your watch every day. [1] https://www.garmin.com/en-US/p/873008/pn/010-02784-00/ [2] https://www.garmin.com/en-US/p/741137/

> I don't see why you are defining success as 30 days of battery life when the baseline is charging your watch every day.

Up until about 10 years ago, no one would have considered the baseline to be charging your watch every day. Even today, most watches/wrist-worn step counters don't require daily charging.

I wouldn't define 30 days as success, but I do want to start out at 2+ weeks. Battery life gets worse over time, and watches aren't meant to last for just a little while. I don't want to spend hundreds of dollars on something that will require charging more than once a week within a year or two.

Appreciate the links, but I'm guessing these are estimates with AOD disabled? That's another benefit of the Pebble (AOD doesn't reduce battery life).

Re: Pebble Watch software is now open source

#106
Don’t have much to add except huge congrats on relaunching. What a move, not only bringing it back from the dead, but also doing it in a way that many people dream that companies would. I just bought an Apple Watch, but this is really tempting.

Re: Pebble Watch software is now open source

#107

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I'm not sure if you're splitting hairs or not. I definitely thought this post would be about them finding open source alternatives to binary firmware, but if it doesn't interoperate with optional non-free software then it is not Open Source. It seems to be comparable to debian, and that's as open source as it gets.

Yeah, it's a perfectly fine place to land. My objection is completely to claiming to be 100% open source when it isn't; if they'd just said 99% open source, or that everything they'd written was now open, then I wouldn't mind (or at least, I'd view it as unfortunate, but I wouldn't be upset with them).

This is classic HN. At first infuriating if it corrects ME, and then amusing.

Re: Pebble Watch software is now open source

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Good question! (I am the Pebble founder) When factories restart, not all of the workers who were working there before actually come back to work. Some of them stay in their hometowns or they get other jobs. This means that restarting the production line actually means retraining people on how to assemble the product. There is also an entire supply chain behind the assembly line that takes time to restart. Think of al…

Sorry to hijack, but are there plans to re-manufacture the Pebble 2 Duo in black? I was one of the pre-orderers that was offered either a refund or a white version and chose the refund because I really had my heart set on the black and don't want a color screen. I'm also an OG Pebble enthusiast, although sadly my old one is long gone.

Eric has made it clear that the Pebble 2 Duo was always going to be a limited run because it was made mostly of leftover components and there's no reasonable path towards making new copies of those components.

> Pebble 2 Duo is sold out! We are not making more.

https://ericmigi.com/blog/how-to-build-a-smartwatch-software...

Re: Pebble Watch software is now open source

#109
This is awesome. What a way to do a relaunch. I was a Pebble user in 2013 on first release and saddened when it all broke down. I was so turned off from that experience that I swore off smart watches (I wear a Casio now).

This could get me back, though I’ll admit the appeal has gone down since I’ve realized how nice it is to create separation between me and my notifications.

Re: Pebble Watch software is now open source

#110

This is awesome. What a way to do a relaunch. I was a Pebble user in 2013 on first release and saddened when it all broke down. I was so turned off from that experience that I swore off smart watches (I wear a Casio now). This could get me back, though I’ll admit the appeal has gone down since I’ve realized how nice it is to create separation between me and my notifications.

At most smart watches you can turn them off. And at your phone too.

I like the gamification and some notifications (today its 5 degrees colder than yesterday for example)

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