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$1900 Bug Bounty to Fix the Lenovo Legion Pro 7 16IAX10H's Speakers on Linux

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Re: $1900 Bug Bounty to Fix the Lenovo Legion Pro 7 16IAX10H's Speakers on Linux

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Post by BenjiWiebe »

nickff wrote: post #79
drunner wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wish there was regulation that you have to sell and maintain a working product, so that open source devs don't have to waste their time fixing proprietary products.

It looks like these laptops are usually sold with Windows; are you saying that every manufacturer should be obligated to develop drivers for every software which is theoretically compatible with it? Or are you just saying that we need even more caveats in the interminable EULAs we all just click through?

Maybe the obligation should be to provide adequate information about the hardware, so anyone could make a driver for their own software if they so desire.

Re: $1900 Bug Bounty to Fix the Lenovo Legion Pro 7 16IAX10H's Speakers on Linux

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Post by mbreese »

wslh wrote: post #99
layer8 wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Given that “fixing this issue required weeks of intensive work from multiple people”, the price would have to be prohibitively high. More generally, software is really, really expensive to produce and maintain. The economics only work at scale, in particular for B2C. (Maybe AI will change that, if it becomes more reliable.)

While you are completely correct about the bounty price, sometimes there are people who work deeply in the field and can solve those things relatively fast because they have already done similar things in the past.

Especially if you’re talking about a business who takes on these types of bounties routinely. I imagine you’d be able to build up a body of historical knowledge about fixing common issues. You could see how that could be a viable business model.

Re: $1900 Bug Bounty to Fix the Lenovo Legion Pro 7 16IAX10H's Speakers on Linux

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Post by skylurk »

Nition wrote: post #57
jey wrote: post #14

And the person who did the implementation, Lyapsus, did it without access to the hardware?? https://github.com/nadimkobeissi/16iax10h-linux-sound-saga/i...

That thread is a fun (though frustrating for them!) conversation to read through. After about a hundred back-and-forths getting the guy with the actual hardware to try different commands, I was thinking to myself man, maybe he should just give him remote access to work on the target PC, this is torture for both of them. And then I see him comment: > Honestly I'm thinking of this and maybe something insane like organi…

I just read it too and now I think I know what the suspense novels robots write for each other will be like.

Re: $1900 Bug Bounty to Fix the Lenovo Legion Pro 7 16IAX10H's Speakers on Linux

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Post by opello »

Nition wrote: post #57
jey wrote: post #14

And the person who did the implementation, Lyapsus, did it without access to the hardware?? https://github.com/nadimkobeissi/16iax10h-linux-sound-saga/i...

That thread is a fun (though frustrating for them!) conversation to read through. After about a hundred back-and-forths getting the guy with the actual hardware to try different commands, I was thinking to myself man, maybe he should just give him remote access to work on the target PC, this is torture for both of them. And then I see him comment: > Honestly I'm thinking of this and maybe something insane like organi…

I also enjoyed reading through it, but wish I'd seen this comment first and avoided missing out on the moment of success too. :)

Re: $1900 Bug Bounty to Fix the Lenovo Legion Pro 7 16IAX10H's Speakers on Linux

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Post by BobbyTables2 »

AshamedCaptain wrote: post #10

I wish there was an actual thriving business model like this -- just fixing most annoying bugs, for a price, of commonly used desktop software. Why proprietary software companies cannot or do not want to provide this service is over me. Perhaps I'm too much used to consulting.

Well, if one person spent a month on this, they’d be making about $10/hr.

Makes StarBucks barista pay look good…

Of course, if they can churn this out closer to 2 days, maybe there is something there.

Such a talented person would probably prefer a more certain and higher income.

Re: $1900 Bug Bounty to Fix the Lenovo Legion Pro 7 16IAX10H's Speakers on Linux

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Post by sublinear »

BobbyTables2 wrote: post #105
AshamedCaptain wrote: post #10

I wish there was an actual thriving business model like this -- just fixing most annoying bugs, for a price, of commonly used desktop software. Why proprietary software companies cannot or do not want to provide this service is over me. Perhaps I'm too much used to consulting.

Well, if one person spent a month on this, they’d be making about $10/hr. Makes StarBucks barista pay look good… Of course, if they can churn this out closer to 2 days, maybe there is something there. Such a talented person would probably prefer a more certain and higher income.

I don't think this argument is accurate. There are other reasons to do this work even for free such as self-promotion, community-building, hobby, etc.

I think the real blockers are the legal implications of reverse engineering.

Re: $1900 Bug Bounty to Fix the Lenovo Legion Pro 7 16IAX10H's Speakers on Linux

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Post by herpderperator »

Can someone explain exactly what's happening here? https://github.com/nadimkobeissi/16iax10h-linux-sound-saga/i...

It seems like there's a lot of personal information being asked for / thrown around... including a debit/credit card number?

Is there no better way to handle the bounty payment?

Re: $1900 Bug Bounty to Fix the Lenovo Legion Pro 7 16IAX10H's Speakers on Linux

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Post by tiagod »

AshamedCaptain wrote: post #10

I wish there was an actual thriving business model like this -- just fixing most annoying bugs, for a price, of commonly used desktop software. Why proprietary software companies cannot or do not want to provide this service is over me. Perhaps I'm too much used to consulting.

Sort of unrelated, but I've been thinking a lot of founding a non-profit that fund raises just to undercut the usual shitty consultancy companies that build government websites and apps just to build them properly.

Re: $1900 Bug Bounty to Fix the Lenovo Legion Pro 7 16IAX10H's Speakers on Linux

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Post by worthless-trash »

mrbombastic wrote: post #46
hackyhacky wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Only frontend React.js Good suggestion, but I discovered that React was not able to fix my Linux kernel, either, for some reason.

Have you tried asking an llm to use react to fix your Linux kernel?

Yes, and its shit.

Re: $1900 Bug Bounty to Fix the Lenovo Legion Pro 7 16IAX10H's Speakers on Linux

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Post by worthless-trash »

Many of these firmware blobs are non redistributable, if you require this blob, you should grab it and back it up. I know a lot of firwmare can't be legally distributable in linux-firmware.

Lenovo may not be as friendly as IBM to its opensource.

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