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European Commission plans “digital omnibus” package to simplify its tech laws

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Re: European Commission plans “digital omnibus” package to simplify its tech laws

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Post by wkat4242 »

chronciger wrote: post #21
Insanity wrote: post #5

It's a tricky balance to strike. I don't want EU to fall behind further in the AI race, and I do want them to be more competitive in the tech landscape. At the moment, EU really isn't competitive in tech (and neither in tech salaries) and it leads to a certain amount of 'brain drain' as people move abroad. So while I do understand the need for regulations, they shouldn't regulate themselves into irrelevance. I don't…

>I don't want EU to fall behind further in the AI race Buddy, EU didn’t even sign up for the race

It's not a race anyway. The Americans always make things into one. But it's mainly their obsession with being "number one". Being number two or three is just fine. We will catch up.

What I'm more worried about is that they'll drag us down into another financial crash like in 2007 when the AI bubble bursts and investors get pissed that they've spent trillions on hot air.

I don't mean to be a dick but I'm getting a bit tired of all this constant survival of the fittest mentality and the idea that they have the best country in the world when in fact it is pretty awful if you're not rich (especially when in poor health). There's a lot of things we do a lot better in Europe and I'm glad to live here. Especially the last year. I don't want Europe to become more like the US.

Re: European Commission plans “digital omnibus” package to simplify its tech laws

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Post by wkat4242 »

scotty79 wrote: post #31
matsz wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Giant GDP boosts are always just one deregulation away, hm? Honestly, reducing the complexity of incorporating and paying taxes in Germany would quickly improve the dire situation of startups here. It's so bad right now that a tax advisor straight up told me to move to a less business-hostile country.

They should just copy Polish laws. They are far from perfect, and yet they provided Poland with almost 30 years of stable, few percent growth, regardless of global and European economic struggles. When you plot the chart of Polish GDP even such a significant event as entering EU doesn't even register in the shape of the growth.

True but Poland did come from a really really deep hole under the thumb of the Soviets. They were very thoroughly screwed over. I guess this is why Poland is the most anti russian country in the EU now (and rightly so)

Just saying that growth is pretty easy starting off from zero.

Re: European Commission plans “digital omnibus” package to simplify its tech laws

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Post by wkat4242 »

admissionsguy wrote: post #25
w1nt3rmut3 wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you mean abroad? I don't think anyone is considering moving to the USA. But maybe you mean a different country?

I actually see a large stream of people moving to the US. Europe is doomed.

I see the opposite. A lot of US people trying to move here now that it's becoming unliveable there for eg trans people. I'm kinda in an lgbt bubble but still. I myself have informed my employer I will no longer even travel to the US for work. Visiting a country means subjecting yourself to its laws and I won't do that. Same with eg middle east. I'm kinda non-binary so trying to get an X passport now so I have an easier time refusing (as I wouldn't be accepted entry anyway)

Also for colleagues in India, scoring a job in America through our company was always the big ideal. That also is no more because nobody wants to be a second class citizen.

Re: European Commission plans “digital omnibus” package to simplify its tech laws

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Post by wkat4242 »

nuffisnuff9 wrote: post #16

Hopefully it's the end of GDPR and privacy laws that absolutely no one requested. Like nobody requested that encrypted chats stop being encrypted or that X becomes a censorship target of EU comissars

Eh wait I requested them and I'm still very much in favour of them. Having the right to privacy is a big one.

With chat control yes, that was totally evil. But I consider GDPR and DSA/DMA forces of good.

The idea that there's no mandate for these things is not true.

Re: European Commission plans “digital omnibus” package to simplify its tech laws

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Post by scotty79 »

matsz wrote: post #94
scotty79 wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They should just copy Polish laws. They are far from perfect, and yet they provided Poland with almost 30 years of stable, few percent growth, regardless of global and European economic struggles. When you plot the chart of Polish GDP even such a significant event as entering EU doesn't even register in the shape of the growth.

True, I was considering going back to Poland for business... if only Poland was more politically stable.

It recently had a bit of tax law upheaval, but things settled down since then. As for other issues it's politically stable, by which I mean consistently politically crappy.

Re: European Commission plans “digital omnibus” package to simplify its tech laws

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Post by BrenBarn »

rapsey wrote: post #30
BrenBarn wrote: post #11

I'm always boggled by the logic of thinking that somehow having big companies going around doing harmful actions to people is "good for the economy" or "keeps us competitive". If having strict AI regulations means AI companies leave Europe, that's good ! I wish we could do the same and get them to leave the US. These big AI companies are bad . We shouldn't want them, we shouldn't try to attract them, we shouldn't pro…

What harmful actions?

Theft of creative work, brain rot, intrusive enshittifiying of all manner of software, spreading misinformation, perpetuating biases, concentrating wealth, sucking up energy. . . I could go on and on and on. The list of negative effects is endless.

Re: European Commission plans “digital omnibus” package to simplify its tech laws

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Post by cbg0 »

reliabilityguy wrote: post #73
cbg0 wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You've voted for the people who elect the European Commission, though I'm sure you know that, just conveniently decided to leave it out, you're a known troll on Reddit too.

The ability of citizens to vote doesn’t make the country not a dictatorship. There are many examples here, e.g., Russia, multiple middle eastern countries, etc.

Are you trying to argue that elections aren't free and fair in EU countries? Or are we splitting hairs?

Re: European Commission plans “digital omnibus” package to simplify its tech laws

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Post by ramblerman »

This new package is about "removing regulation", specifically GDPR.

Which let's be honest has not achieved its intended target. Google/Apple/etc can easily afford to break GDPR and get caught up in fines while as a small business owner it was a huge and complicated liability.

ofc politico will frame this as a negative, it seems their only mission is to make moloch grow.

Re: European Commission plans “digital omnibus” package to simplify its tech laws

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Post by gnabgib »

mmooss wrote: post #109

@dang: The headline currently is Brussels knifes privacy to feed the AI boom That's inflammatory, but the current OP is inaccurate.

The current title is FTA, check out paragraph 2. Chosen by the OP or mods not to be inflammatory.
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