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Re: Thiel and Zuckerberg on Facebook, Millennials, and predictions for 2030 (2019)

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Post by svieira » Mon, Nov 10, 2025, 5:16 PM UTC

lm28469 wrote: post #97

hereme888 wrote: post #80

Reminder to millennials: Socialism in real life = Biggest Government, Biggest Tech monopoly, forced uniformity, no self-agency, no authenticity for anyone who slightly disagrees with any aspect of the agenda, etc. Source: I fled Venezuela because I lived in it.

No offence but Venezuela is a political meme and one of the most corrupt country out there lol, given your natural resources you should be doing way better regardless of where the government leans. Socialism brought a lot of good things all over Europe in the 1900s

> Socialism brought a lot of good things all over Europe in the 1900s

Just ask Poland!

Re: Thiel and Zuckerberg on Facebook, Millennials, and predictions for 2030 (2019)

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Post by jimbokun » Mon, Nov 10, 2025, 5:21 PM UTC

thatguy0900 wrote: post #91

benrutter wrote: post #86

> When Mark and Priscilla commit to giving away 99% of their wealth during their lifetimes I hadn't heard this before but googling it seems like a genuine commitment at the time[0]. I mostly feel like Zuck isn't making the world a better place, but this sounds really impressive as a commitment - any idea if this commitments been stuck to now we're around 10 years on? [0] https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-349…

How kind of him to give his wealth away after intentionally using his company to fracture society as much as he could to earn the money in the first place

Sigh.

No, Zuckerberg did not set out consciously trying to "fracture society". He started out trying to provide a way to rate women at Harvard by how attractive they were, then by just trying to optimize revenue without any consideration for unintended consequences. Then kept going.

Not understanding the failure mode is going to just lead to repeating the same mistakes at even grander scales, like what's happening now with AI. Nerds obsessed with creating "AGI" without the capability or willingness to think through the potential consequences.

Re: Thiel and Zuckerberg on Facebook, Millennials, and predictions for 2030 (2019)

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Post by jimbokun » Mon, Nov 10, 2025, 5:23 PM UTC

disambiguation wrote: post #85

Wow am I reading this correctly? To recap: - They're going to run Zuck for president to beat the millennial socialist zeitgeist. - They're going to use generational warfare to stage an institutional coup. > we need to do better than simply dismiss them by saying that they are stupid or entitled or brainwashed Classy.

Please point me to the above quotes in the emails.

Re: Thiel and Zuckerberg on Facebook, Millennials, and predictions for 2030 (2019)

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Post by jimbokun » Mon, Nov 10, 2025, 5:25 PM UTC

lm28469 wrote: post #97

hereme888 wrote: post #80

Reminder to millennials: Socialism in real life = Biggest Government, Biggest Tech monopoly, forced uniformity, no self-agency, no authenticity for anyone who slightly disagrees with any aspect of the agenda, etc. Source: I fled Venezuela because I lived in it.

No offence but Venezuela is a political meme and one of the most corrupt country out there lol, given your natural resources you should be doing way better regardless of where the government leans. Socialism brought a lot of good things all over Europe in the 1900s

Give me a definition of socialism that only includes the good things done in Western Europe and excludes all of the bad things that happened in Soviet Union, China, Venezuela etc.

Re: Thiel and Zuckerberg on Facebook, Millennials, and predictions for 2030 (2019)

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Post by jimbokun » Mon, Nov 10, 2025, 5:26 PM UTC

seydor wrote: post #62

Well if the changeover happens it seems it will happen in the 2030s. Amd millennials found their replacement for housing bubble with the stocks / crypto bubble. And democracy is good for boomers, because they are too many and outnumber everyone else in battle. So millennials and genz are not unsympathetic to less democracy (a view that Thiel shares). Thiel in this context could be considered a boomer, and his interes…

I would like to see a poll showing that Millennials as a whole are unsympathetic to Democracy.

Re: Thiel and Zuckerberg on Facebook, Millennials, and predictions for 2030 (2019)

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Post by jalapenof » Mon, Nov 10, 2025, 5:27 PM UTC

throwaway20222 wrote: post #68

vvpan wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And Elon Musk does Nazi salutes in-front of the nation and just goes back to being CEO of things.

Why the down votes? Should I not believe my own eyes?

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Re: Thiel and Zuckerberg on Facebook, Millennials, and predictions for 2030 (2019)

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Post by jimbokun » Mon, Nov 10, 2025, 5:28 PM UTC

NalNezumi wrote: post #92

The thing that most surprises me in these emails are that those two people care about housing price or student debt, or millennials in general. And cynical me can't brush of the feeling that this is satire or that I need to read between the lines. A dude that buys all houses around him just to get privacy and "fuck off" others (Zuck) cares about housing? A guy that think Greta is antichrist and think anyone that bloc…

Or maybe it shows that The Bad Guys have complicated and unexpected and nuanced thoughts sometimes?

Re: Thiel and Zuckerberg on Facebook, Millennials, and predictions for 2030 (2019)

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Post by hereme888 » Mon, Nov 10, 2025, 5:29 PM UTC

lm28469 wrote: post #97

hereme888 wrote: post #80

Reminder to millennials: Socialism in real life = Biggest Government, Biggest Tech monopoly, forced uniformity, no self-agency, no authenticity for anyone who slightly disagrees with any aspect of the agenda, etc. Source: I fled Venezuela because I lived in it.

No offence but Venezuela is a political meme and one of the most corrupt country out there lol, given your natural resources you should be doing way better regardless of where the government leans. Socialism brought a lot of good things all over Europe in the 1900s

Not offended. It is one of the most corrupt countries since socialism. It was thriving when I grew up there. But when you steal, oppress, and kill competent leaders because you resent them having more money than you, and give entire industries (steel, gold, petroleum) to the "workers" because they think collective thinking > a single phD who knows what he's doing, the industries rot and fail, like they did.

Re: Thiel and Zuckerberg on Facebook, Millennials, and predictions for 2030 (2019)

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Post by jimbokun » Mon, Nov 10, 2025, 5:29 PM UTC

drivebyhooting wrote: post #31

Facebook and instagram are a disease. Time and again Meta’s properties have been shown to be detrimental to children’s (and adults’) mental health. Even by Meta’s own research! The whole thing stinks of the same foul reek as big tobacco. When their reckoning comes we will wonder how we could have let one megalomaniac’s scam go so far. > They trust me. Dumb fucks. > Zuck aut nihil. He never changed.

Along with every other social network.

Re: Thiel and Zuckerberg on Facebook, Millennials, and predictions for 2030 (2019)

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Post by hereme888 » Mon, Nov 10, 2025, 5:30 PM UTC

jimbokun wrote: post #104

lm28469 wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No offence but Venezuela is a political meme and one of the most corrupt country out there lol, given your natural resources you should be doing way better regardless of where the government leans. Socialism brought a lot of good things all over Europe in the 1900s

Give me a definition of socialism that only includes the good things done in Western Europe and excludes all of the bad things that happened in Soviet Union, China, Venezuela etc.

Blowing pink powder in your face while telling you what you want to hear.