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Study finds memory decline surge in young people

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Re: Study finds memory decline surge in young people

#101
spike protein is known to travel across the blood brain barrier

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35052867/

But of course something introduced between 2013 and 2023 that gets your cells to manufacture spike protein, with no way of regulating the spike dose, couldn't possibly be connected with memory decline.

Re: Study finds memory decline surge in young people

#102
post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The article is already fairly sensationalist in its conclusions and language, but avoiding tap-to-pay because you don't have a phone is a non-sequitur; debit and credit cards support tap to pay just fine. Similarly with folks saying they don't carry a phone so they ask others for the time. One option is to wear a watch.

When you use tap to pay, you are sending information about your purchases and location to dozens of ad tech companies, and are still participating in the very surveillance capitalism that makes everyone stupider for money. I also pay with cash for privacy, and to use my privilege to constantly demand it as an option so the unbanked who cannot advocate for themselves can still participate in society.

Absolutely agree. It just has nothing to do with self-reported memory and cognitive decline, which is the subject of the article.

Re: Study finds memory decline surge in young people

#103

spike protein is known to travel across the blood brain barrier https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35052867/ But of course something introduced between 2013 and 2023 that gets your cells to manufacture spike protein, with no way of regulating the spike dose, couldn't possibly be connected with memory decline.

Why would that differentially affect young people?

Re: Study finds memory decline surge in young people

#104

The AI writing here is so hard to read I honestly couldn’t finish the article. “It’s not X, it’s Y” is a turn of speech that has to be consciously removed from a polite society.

> consciously removed Please retain this turn of speech that helps autonomic (carbon) and automated (silicon) filters.

I don’t think I quite caught your meaning.

Re: Study finds memory decline surge in young people

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Its the low quality food, my memory improved a lot, after I stopped eating sugar and most refined foods. Theres even some research that Alzheimer starts from bad bacteria in the gut, that loves sugar.

I was just talking with my wife yesterday about how readily people assume they have superior competence to or greater insight than experts in a given field. I'm not picking on you in particular, but your comment jumped out at me. Substantially: We've been eating "low quality" food of one type -- ultra-processed food -- since at least the '60s, so what's your explanation for the recency of the effect? And some time ea…

It's reasoned conjecture on an internet message board. Yes, it is over-stated. But if one treats quality of diet as one variable among many in cognitive capacity, which is the only sane approach, then trying to match the diet of a population to trendlines in society-wide cognitive performance is not going to tell you anything.

Re: Study finds memory decline surge in young people

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Okay but what if daycare needs you to pick up your kid? People expect to be able to reach you…

We managed these problems before everyone had a mobile phone.

"What if you get an infection?"

SoftTalker: "We managed healthcare before antibiotics, antiseptics, germ theory, sterilisation. Hah, gotcha."

Re: Study finds memory decline surge in young people

#107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Okay but what if daycare needs you to pick up your kid? People expect to be able to reach you…

We managed these problems before everyone had a mobile phone.

Back them, they did called you to work and it was customary to rely message by two other people. There is no such desk anymore and they dont want to be handling your life.

And if your kid needed to go home and sleep in bed, you had to take the day off instead of home office. There was price to that.

Oh, and back then school did not expected parents and kids to have phones, now it does. Information about schedule changes, homework, what needs to be paid and such is broadcasted with the assumption that everyone has a phone.

Re: Study finds memory decline surge in young people

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post #64

Since giving up my cell phone entirely over 5 years ago, my productivity, memory, and overall happiness are at the highest levels they have ever been, in my late 30s. I no longer apologize to anyone for this lifestyle choice anymore since the benefits are something everyone deserves, but almost all opt out of today for made up reasons. I take photos with a pocket mirrorless, and take notes with a notebook. I tell tim…

So you not have extended family or friends in your daily social setting? Like this sounds awesome but being offline for 23 hours in the day is unmanageable here, unless you live a very solitary life.

It saddens me that this is a real thought of yours. You just need a bit of creativity and trust, my friend. Something it seems people are lacking these days... likely due to the very thing we are discussing now: smartphone addiction!

As has already been pointed out to you here before, these social moves you fear are awkward or impossible were EASILY handled by generations before you... and all without cellphones. Go figure.

Re: Study finds memory decline surge in young people

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post #67

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> So a precautionary principle approach to consumption is to consider what we evolved with and sugar definitely wasn't that. Sugar only really took off in the 19th century. We have evidence that apiculture has been a thing for well over 8,000 years. Our bodies literally love to burn glucose as fuel and we perform better physically (and mentally I assume) when glucose is readily available. We have literally evolved to…

You completely missed the point GP was making. Yes, sugar is an easy fuel source. The point is we have NOT evolved to consume massive amounts every day without breaks (i.e. daily) and without lots of fiber to buffer it.

I think you might be the one that’s missing the point. I’m saying some sugar is absolutely fine as part of a balanced diet, this isn’t a controversial point. Excessive calories are bad, whether they’re sugar or anything else.

Re: Study finds memory decline surge in young people

#110
post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The article is already fairly sensationalist in its conclusions and language, but avoiding tap-to-pay because you don't have a phone is a non-sequitur; debit and credit cards support tap to pay just fine. Similarly with folks saying they don't carry a phone so they ask others for the time. One option is to wear a watch.

When you use tap to pay, you are sending information about your purchases and location to dozens of ad tech companies, and are still participating in the very surveillance capitalism that makes everyone stupider for money. I also pay with cash for privacy, and to use my privilege to constantly demand it as an option so the unbanked who cannot advocate for themselves can still participate in society.

> I also pay with cash for privacy

Somewhat privacy. When you take cash out of an ATM, surely the serial numbers will be recorded as being dispensed to you. And when the shop pays those notes into the bank, they will be connected to the shop's account. "lrvick took this note out November 4th on Main Street, Pretend Grocery Store on West Street paid it in on November 7th". Maybe the note will be given in change and pass through a few places, but over months and years, you and Pretend Groceries will be more and more strongly connected.

"Yesterday Dad went out to buy a hardcover novel. He said he wanted to read something long, rich and thought provoking for a change. He also said he was going to buy the book with cash, so nobody could trace the purchase to him and exploit his interests for commercial purposes" - Calvin and Hobbes, Watterson, December 1993.

https://featureassets.gocomics.com/assets/d0f4d450df96013172...

https://www.gocomics.com/calvinandhobbes/1993/12/07

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