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Mark Zuckerberg Had Illegal School at His Palo Alto Compound. Neighbors Revolted

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Re: Mark Zuckerberg Had Illegal School at His Palo Alto Compound. Neighbors Revolted

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Post by red-iron-pine »

quantified wrote: post #81
lateforwork wrote: post #5

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My favorite part of that story: He said a security guard approached him and asked what he was doing. “I said, ‘I’m standing on the sidewalk looking at this project for review.’ He said, ‘Well, we’d appreciate it if you could move on,’” Mr. Baltay recalled. “I was pretty shocked by that. It’s a public sidewalk!” Zuckerberg could have built a fancy house in Woodside or Atherton which is where billionaire CEOs live. Ins…

If you consider Palo Alto "regular people". I think regular people consider Palo Alto as where centimillionaire CEOs live.

it's fuck-you money, but only with a lower-case 'f'

Re: Mark Zuckerberg Had Illegal School at His Palo Alto Compound. Neighbors Revolted

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Post by red-iron-pine »

burnt-resistor wrote: post #95
goatlover wrote: post #61

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We see that with Trump's second presidency. The WH ballroom, Gatsby party during shutdown, while withholding SNAP emergency funds, gifts from foreign governments, all the deals for corporations and billionaires, tariffs, pardons, etc.

This is how crazy shit like accelerationism, communism, or French Revolution take hold: wider factional extreme consolidations of power and swings between them rather than stable groups of sane, restrained people with a sense of shame and reasonableness set in roughly-balanced, countervailing opposition. (Status quo statism is not necessarily sustainable if it's been terrible for too many for too long either.) The ri…

accelerationism is literally Russian propaganda aimed at turning left-wingers into right-wing anti-government types.

a legacy of Soviet agit-prop used in a multi-pronged strategy, albeit one that has little traction compared to MAGA and the trad-right stuff.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg Had Illegal School at His Palo Alto Compound. Neighbors Revolted

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Post by exe34 »

potato3732842 wrote: post #100
exe34 wrote: post #98

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if you love freedom so much, you should move to Somalia! no government to tax and regulate your life!

Ah, yes, the false dichotomy. Stop peddling government that sucks so much and people wouldn't hate it. It's not even about the taxes and the regulation. It's about the de-facto inequality under the law masquerading as "regulation" that I can't stand.

Libertarians seem to hate freedom when it's offered to them.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg Had Illegal School at His Palo Alto Compound. Neighbors Revolted

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Post by tim333 »

happytoexplain wrote: post #55
jameslk wrote: post #23

Zuck vs Bay Area NIMBYs… this is going to be a tough one to pick a side on

It's OK to care about what's going on around your home and in your community. "NIMBY" is usually meant to imply that they are being unreasonable in their complaints.

The horror of having a small school near your house!

Re: Mark Zuckerberg Had Illegal School at His Palo Alto Compound. Neighbors Revolted

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Post by potato3732842 »

exe34 wrote: post #103
potato3732842 wrote: post #100

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Ah, yes, the false dichotomy. Stop peddling government that sucks so much and people wouldn't hate it. It's not even about the taxes and the regulation. It's about the de-facto inequality under the law masquerading as "regulation" that I can't stand.

Libertarians seem to hate freedom when it's offered to them.

This isn't a political spectrum problem. It is a people problem. You can live in a successful society with high touch government, or low touch government. They can both work, The problem with the former is that government power attracts people like you who have some end (keeping Zuck down or whatever) you want that people don't agree with (hence why you must co-opt existing institutions rather than build them) and so reasonable safety regulation turns into protectionism and industry handouts, etc, etc.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg Had Illegal School at His Palo Alto Compound. Neighbors Revolted

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Post by exe34 »

potato3732842 wrote: post #105
exe34 wrote: post #103

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Libertarians seem to hate freedom when it's offered to them.

This isn't a political spectrum problem. It is a people problem. You can live in a successful society with high touch government, or low touch government. They can both work, The problem with the former is that government power attracts people like you who have some end (keeping Zuck down or whatever) you want that people don't agree with (hence why you must co-opt existing institutions rather than build them) and so…

Letting industry police itself gives you Boeings falling out of the sky.

I'm not attracted to power myself thank you very much. It's too much effort trying to help society and having people like you wreck it. As you can probably not tell, I don't work well with idiots.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg Had Illegal School at His Palo Alto Compound. Neighbors Revolted

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Post by array_key_first »

bnchrch wrote: post #53
randycupertino wrote: post #8

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I think it's more that he disregarded residential zoning and opened a school for 30 kids, with a full docket of “residential support staff” including “childcare, culinary, personal assistants, property management, and security" without any permits. If your next door neighbor opened a 30+ person school or other large business next to your property without any permits and against what your neighborhood was zoned for yo…

Zoning on average is a blight. Industrial / High Rise is the only thing that should need permitting. Fourplex / Duplex / Single Family / Small Offices / Schools should not.

Okay but if you came home and your house was surrounded by a fucking school and pick up and drop off is happening you'd be pissed.

Let's all just be for real for one second please.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg Had Illegal School at His Palo Alto Compound. Neighbors Revolted

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Post by array_key_first »

potato3732842 wrote: post #89
exe34 wrote: post #25

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Nobody made a school illegal. Schools have to meet certain standards, whether educational or planning.

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Yes, correct, the only people opening schools should be governments or highly skilled private actors who proved they are highly skilled.

Otherwise we get children who grow up into neanderthals and the country goes to shit. I quite like living somewhere with a decent literacy rate. Let's keep it that way.

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