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YouTube erased more than 700 videos documenting Israeli human rights violations

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Re: YouTube erased more than 700 videos documenting Israeli human rights violations

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Post by Herring »

saubeidl wrote: post #48
jackjeff wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The irony is that JD Vance lectured the Europeans about their lack of freedom of speech in Europe while invited in Germany.

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Yeah I hope to never say this again, but I'm pretty sure Goebbels was right.

Germany took those lessons to heart. Speech and expression related to Nazism is heavily regulated and subjects you to imprisonment. Demonstrations/rallies are often banned. The Nazi party itself is banned. AfD is being monitored by intelligence agencies and might be banned in the future, etc. They do this defensively when groups demonstrate an "actively belligerent, aggressive stance" towards the democratic order. Because it's like pointing a gun at people in public - it's already violent even if you don't pull the trigger.

Re: YouTube erased more than 700 videos documenting Israeli human rights violations

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Post by isodev »

trinsic2 wrote: post #84
fluoridation wrote: post #69

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>I think to maintain any sort of real open web, we're going to need some sort of new Tor network that can support billions of users anonymously accessing information which can't be deplatformed That already exists. They're called onion sites. What we really need is something that performs about as well as the current Internet, but is stronger against deplatforming: decentralized DNS. It doesn't even need to give memo…

Decentralization just puts people that run servers as middle men to further impose a censorship agenda with ActivityPub. Whatever it is it needs to be distributed like BitTorrent.

It also makes it very difficult to censor. There is 1 YouTube and thousands of ActivityPub servers and relays that would happily carry all posts through the fediverse regardless if they seize one or two hosts. There are other options as well - that was a bit my point that Medium/X/Bluesky/YouTube - these are designed to harvest engagement in exchange for content. They’re not good for news and certainly not good as an archive.

Re: YouTube erased more than 700 videos documenting Israeli human rights violations

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Post by JohnFen »

hliyan wrote: post #33
isodev wrote: post #11

That's why we have Peertube and your personal (not hosted by a corp) website. It's amazing how people forgot to use the internet in exchange for "easier" UX.

I wonder if the future should simply be a cloud version of a personal computer. Rather than subscribing to a lot of SaaS where your data distributed across various platforms, you "purchase" a cloud computer (could be a tiny SOC + disk, or a VM), install software on it (licensed, not subscription based), and store all your data on it, as good old-fashioned files only you and your programs can access. Including your vi…

Oh, hell no. That would mean having even less control over my "computer", and would expose me to even greater abuse by tech companies.

Re: YouTube erased more than 700 videos documenting Israeli human rights violations

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Post by philipallstar »

latexr wrote: post #98
philipallstar wrote: post #91

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> If you need an example, look at the recent Jimmy Kimmel case. Jimmy Kimmel is on the air today, having walked back his nonsense about the political allegiances of the Charlie Kirk killer. If the outcome is the political left in America is even fractionally less likely to incite violence against anyone they don't like the speech of, then that's a great outcome.

> Jimmy Kimmel is on the air today That it was even off, based on threats made by the government, is the point. Bad things by one party aren’t suddenly OK because a different party beat them.

We don't know that that's all that did it. ABC chose to do it, and probably because what he said was really ignorant and inflammatory to the US political left's violent streak.

I am as against the Republicans doing this stuff even 5% as much as the Democrats did, so I'm glad the Trump administration turns out to have not done anything to get him off the air.

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Post by js212 »

bjoli wrote: post #86
xyzal wrote: post #44

Fed up by status quo? Consider donating. https://www.hindrajabfoundation.org/donate

For those not clicking random links: this foundation tries to find evidence of atrocities by people with dual citizenship so that they can be prosecuted in their other home country.

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Re: YouTube erased more than 700 videos documenting Israeli human rights violations

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Post by Mountain_Skies »

hobs wrote: post #3
DiogenesKynikos wrote: post #2

It turns out that it's much easier than anyone thought to end freedom of speech in the United States. If no one cares about the Constitution, then it's just paper. Trump sanctions the International Criminal Court and anyone who provides evidence to it, and now pro-Palestinian groups can't post videos of Israeli abuse on YouTube. The First Amendment is nowhere to be seen.

Don't forget how this admin cried up and down about the censorship of the previous on Covid misinformation, and said that freedom of speech was paramount; no surprise a lie again.

Tech company censorship during the pandemic was one of the most widely celebrated actions on Hacker News. A few warned that giving tech companies this much control over discourse would have consequences, but the typical poster here didn't care, they just wanted anything that didn't conform with the blessed narrative to be suppressed.

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Post by zen928 »

philipallstar wrote: post #91
latexr wrote: post #76

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I’ll say it again: > “Forcing” doesn’t just mean directly requiring the action, it also means the threat of “this is not going to end up well for you if you don’t comply”. Which is definitely what the current administration does. If you need an example, look at the recent Jimmy Kimmel case.

> If you need an example, look at the recent Jimmy Kimmel case. Jimmy Kimmel is on the air today, having walked back his nonsense about the political allegiances of the Charlie Kirk killer. If the outcome is the political left in America is even fractionally less likely to incite violence against anyone they don't like the speech of, then that's a great outcome.

No such walk back exists btw, especially when he never made a definitive claim to the political allegiance of the killer. The only people doing a walk back here are the show execs allowing Kimmel to return. The groups of people who did make claims about the politics of the killer, i.e. the president and the presidents cabinet did so immediately after his death with no evidence and have shown to be wrong in their initial assertion, which has now been swept under the rug. Pathetic display all around holding a late night comedian to a higher standard than the president tbh, more than "a great outcome".

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Post by justacrow »

js212 wrote: post #106
bjoli wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For those not clicking random links: this foundation tries to find evidence of atrocities by people with dual citizenship so that they can be prosecuted in their other home country.

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It's also not mandatory for the majority of jews, as they are not Israeli citizens

Re: YouTube erased more than 700 videos documenting Israeli human rights violations

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Post by acdha »

econ wrote: post #99
skulk wrote: post #87

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Google didn't censor covid-related conspiracies or whatever at the behest of the government. YouTube can censor whoever it wants but the US government cannot. Also, do you have any actual evidence of political debanking in the US? I can't find any references to it other than the propaganda of the current administration.

I don't know anything so I tried searching. This was th first result. https://judiciary.house.gov/media/press-releases/google-admi... Make of it what you will.

Google’s employees didn’t mention government pressure earlier and the company only started talking about that in conjunction with their PR plan to get favorable treatment from the current administration:

https://www.wired.com/story/republicans-claim-biden-censored...

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