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Crunchyroll is destroying its subtitles

daiz.moe

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Re: Crunchyroll is destroying its subtitles

#101

Considering how Crunchyroll started out by streaming ripped off anime content, hope they fail

It has been a loooong time since that. I'm pretty happy they not only went the legal route, but also were successful doing it while retaining a relatively large library. They could have failed and shut down. Remember that back then, Japanese producers didn't take overseas demand seriously, many of them don't even know that it existed or that there were many fansubs.

Re: Crunchyroll is destroying its subtitles

#102
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does Netflix really only allow 2 lines of subtitling on screen at a time? That's really stupid. Also I remember when CR killed the Kodi plugin, that irked me enough to stick to DVD imports + fan subs for a while. Finally, Ruri Rocks is such a good show, it got me to resubscribe to CR after not having subbed for years. If they screw with its subs I'm gonna root for this mess to bankrupt CR for good.

> Ruri Rocks This could be the toughest show to sub with all the geological explaination and jargon the adapter must be familiar with. Adding to that the line limit, The bar to cross sounds quite hard.

Not to mention the whole informative slideshow between the scene.Can't imagine how can they achieve that with only 2 lines.

Re: Crunchyroll is destroying its subtitles

#103
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As someone who doesn't watch anime, this article reminds me of when a coworker sends a screenshot with zero context and says something like "is this supposed to be like this?" Maybe it's a spectrum thing, but I find it beyond lazy and insulting. In the article, there's zero explanation of what the actual issue is, at least in the first few paragraphs. It just seems to say the subtitles are bad with some examples and…

I agree, I didn't see that much of a difference between the good quality and bad quality examples. Is it the fonts, or the translation, or the placement of the text?

Thanks for the response. I was feeling a little crazy. The rest of responses to my comment so far are either dismissive or don't seem to understand what I was trying to communicate, but you seem to have the same issue I have.

Re: Crunchyroll is destroying its subtitles

#104
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This is the result of a ton of research into Crunchyroll's recent subtitle changes that have tanked the service's first-party presentation quality to an all-time low. The article ended up being quite long, so I highly appreciate anyone taking the time to read it in full!

> that have tanked the service's first-party presentation quality to an all-time low Would you pirate for better subtitles? Assuming Crunchroll has the legal rights to the content pinned down, that may be the only way to apply legitimate pressure.

Irony is Crunchyroll, started as a pirate service.

Re: Crunchyroll is destroying its subtitles

#105
post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does Netflix really only allow 2 lines of subtitling on screen at a time? That's really stupid. Also I remember when CR killed the Kodi plugin, that irked me enough to stick to DVD imports + fan subs for a while. Finally, Ruri Rocks is such a good show, it got me to resubscribe to CR after not having subbed for years. If they screw with its subs I'm gonna root for this mess to bankrupt CR for good.

> Ruri Rocks This could be the toughest show to sub with all the geological explaination and jargon the adapter must be familiar with. Adding to that the line limit, The bar to cross sounds quite hard.

Do you know if there are plans to dub it at some point? I was looking forward to watching it, but I prefer dubs to subs (yes I know I'm weird)

Re: Crunchyroll is destroying its subtitles

#106

The mass market has already responded that they want dubbed anime. It doesn't make sense to invest into subtitles. Maybe it's time to accept that you are not the target audience anymore of western anime distributors.

It baffles me how this is a thing. Not just regarding anime but any non-English language show or film. I've never come across a dub that wasn't at least five times worse in every way.

I like watching anime, as opposed to reading anime, and I don't know Japanese. Every dub I've watched has been fine for me, I haven't noticed it being bad. Sure, if I knew Japanese well enough to keep up with the dialog, and watched both versions, I'd probably notice a difference, but for me, it comes down to whether I want to listen to an anime in English, or read an anime in English. I also sometimes want to do something while watching anime that means I can't devote my entire time to looking at the screen, and I don't want to have to keep rewinding so I can read what I missed. With an English or dubbed show, I can do things like put it on a second monitor while I'm playing a game, but that doesn't work with a subbed show. Yes, I know the solution is just to learn Japanese, but I've always struggled with learning languages and I barely have time to watch anime these days, let alone learn another language

Re: Crunchyroll is destroying its subtitles

#107

It's so hard finding dubbed anime WITH subtitles. Like actually ridiculously hard. My wife is deaf and I like dubbed so I can use my laptop while we chill but she literally needs subtitles so it's super annoying when a show either 1. Has no subtitles for dubbed. 2. Their subtitles are just the subbed version's subtitles which are drastically different from what the dubbed VAs are actually saying. 3. Has subtitles for…

I've seen it with a few pirate releases that have two subtitle tracks for the same language, one being the dub.

Gaben proven right yet again.

Re: Crunchyroll is destroying its subtitles

#108

It's so hard finding dubbed anime WITH subtitles. Like actually ridiculously hard. My wife is deaf and I like dubbed so I can use my laptop while we chill but she literally needs subtitles so it's super annoying when a show either 1. Has no subtitles for dubbed. 2. Their subtitles are just the subbed version's subtitles which are drastically different from what the dubbed VAs are actually saying. 3. Has subtitles for…

If you ever need to hack some subs by yourself, whisper.cpp can output .srt files and you can run the small or medium models even on modest hardware.

None of the models I've seen can actually do proper timing. It's all idiotic.

Re: Crunchyroll is destroying its subtitles

#109

Sort of unrelated, but has anyone else noticed that there are a lot of subtitling errors in netflix shows recently? Two I noticed yesterday: "natural world" -> "national world" "cede power" -> "seed power" I guess they're just machine transcribing it without oversight now?

Netflix dumps this task to third-party vendors. Theoretically, they should vet and verify the work quality but it's probably a race to the very bottom.

Re: Crunchyroll is destroying its subtitles

#110

The mass market has already responded that they want dubbed anime. It doesn't make sense to invest into subtitles. Maybe it's time to accept that you are not the target audience anymore of western anime distributors.

It baffles me how this is a thing. Not just regarding anime but any non-English language show or film. I've never come across a dub that wasn't at least five times worse in every way.

After hearing it from multiple different people, I've discovered that apparently many people are watching video content in background. And I don't mean music or podcasts style content with no graphics, but actual TV shows, anime, movies etc. And apparently they do that while doing something else demanding attention, like work, gaming, reading(!) etc. I have never managed such a feat, but it seems it is popular nowadays. That may be the reason, I guess.
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