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EuroLLM: LLM made in Europe built to support all 24 official EU languages
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#102If multi‑lang is the goal, why not translate the output of the big labs?
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#103Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why wasting money on trying to compete at all then?
Every country needs a few plumbers and carpenters whether or not they are at the forefront of technology. Some money must be spent to give academics work to do so they can sharpen up their skills and perhaps teach the next set of students who might be more commercial
It would be a better use of the money to hire someone who has worked on actual frontier models to teach at European universities
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> What's REALLY much more important though if you want to be a part of the AI race and I've posted for years here with @euaccofficial is to make Europe a really extremely attractive place to start and run an AI business. Remove regulatory obstructions and give tax discounts for startups. Let them build a business first that can compete worldwide and once they make enough money (let's say $100M/y), then slowly start a…
> When you talk to most EU business owners, even in tech, the limiting factor isn't regulations. This being the #1 reason is such a tired trope.
Okay, what is the limiting factor? Because when I talk to EU business owners (admittedly, very few) - they point to lack of big EU capital markets, which is directly downstream of the policy environment. And when I talk to top EU human capital, they all point to the lack of competitive wages. There's a real difficulty in allocating capital to talented humans.
And, at least in Southern Europe, the income tax schedule is so aggressive it's hard to justify continuing working in many of these countries if you are highly talented.
Like, if you can tell me what the induced operator norm from l_2 -> l_2 is - probably you should come to the US and work at a biglab and make bank. What can you do in Portugal, Italy, Spain, etc.??
> Pieter Levels is at the end of the day an influencer, not a serious founder.
Sure, agreed.
I think it is a complete misreading to point to protectionism as the reason for Chinese success, but having a big unified domestic market for consumers along with massive saving rates and capital controls probably does help.
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#105It's just another Horizon2020 grant, people. Don't be overly harsh to a bunch of academics who are just earning their living.
I thought research grants were to make novel discoveries, not to replicate what industry has long done. Unless we are at the point where we study US as an alien civilization
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#106For those curious, the 24 official languages are Bulgarian, Croatian, Czech, Danish, Dutch, English, Estonian, Finnish, French, German, Greek, Hungarian, Irish, Italian, Latvian, Lithuanian, Maltese, Polish, Portuguese, Romanian, Slovak, Slovenian, Spanish, and Swedish. Maltese, interestingly, is the only Afro-Asiatic derived language. Hungarian, Finnish, and Estonian are the three Uralic languages. All the others ar…
I read, write and speak Maltese, AMA if you are curious about the language.
Can you communicate with Maltese dogs more effectively?
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#1071. It's a nice start, but the EU has to scale to Manhattan Project levels in order to properly compete with the US and China. 2. A credible scale effort for EU own silicon for AI Compute, wouldn't hurt either. 3. And this can only be achieved by vertical integration to combat fragmentation.
> It's a nice start, but the EU has to scale to Manhattan Project levels in order to properly compete with the US and China.
Yep, the US-government sponsored, open-weight LLM is miles ahead of EuroLLM
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#108Is it planned to have a VLM or something compareable like Qwen3-VL for the future?
A multimodal release is planned.
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#109Aren't all frontier models already able to use all these languages? Support for specific languages doesn't need to be built in, LLMs support all languages because they are trained on multilingual data.
No, that's not how training works. It's not just about having an example in a given language, but also how many examples and the ratio of examples compared to other languages. English hugely eclipses any other language on most US models and that's why performance on other languages is subpar compared to performance on english.