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Re: The AirPods Pro 3 flight problem

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Completely off topic, but when did people start calling earphones “headphones”? Headphones are the cans that cup your ears and strap around or over the head. Hence their name. Whereas earphones go inside your ear.

I use them interchangeably. Webster appears to back me up here. However, I only say earbud when referring to the type that's inserted into the ear.

Re: The AirPods Pro 3 flight problem

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post #91

Completely off topic, but when did people start calling earphones “headphones”? Headphones are the cans that cup your ears and strap around or over the head. Hence their name. Whereas earphones go inside your ear.

i've never heard anyone say "earphones"

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Anecdotal, one of my colleagues was sounding surprisingly clear on one of the calls, and I had to ask him what is he using. Turns out whose were AirPods Pro 3, so my first impression with their microphone is quite amazing. Comparable to "studio mics from MBP" from a generation or two ago. He shared noise cancellation is also great.

Probably Airpods Pro 3 then and not Airpods 3. The latter have no noise cancellation.

yup, edited my comment, it was Pros

Re: The AirPods Pro 3 flight problem

#105
post #70

Anecdotal, one of my colleagues was sounding surprisingly clear on one of the calls, and I had to ask him what is he using. Turns out whose were AirPods Pro 3, so my first impression with their microphone is quite amazing. Comparable to "studio mics from MBP" from a generation or two ago. He shared noise cancellation is also great.

It might also be because newer Bluetooth codecs being used. I think Apple doesn't publish a lot of documentation about it (or it isn't obvious, at least...)

Could be the case, but it is very obvious if someone is using Pros 1 or 2, the audio is really bad. This was honestly such a jump that I somehow wish my Pros 1 to break so I can get new ones :D Can't upgrade from a perfectly working set of headphones, although they are more than four years old and probably my 2nd most used device after the phone.

Re: The AirPods Pro 3 flight problem

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post #99
post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People definitely used to. Or at least in the UK they did.

Yeah, might be a UK thing. In Canada/the US I've only ever heard "headphones" and "earbuds" (a specific kind of headphone).

That would explain my surprise then. :)

Re: The AirPods Pro 3 flight problem

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I use these at night, sleeping with them on. I experienced this screeching intermittently for like a week, and then it went away almost completely. Now, it only happens if I lay down in a very specific way. It's probably related to the strength of the seal in my case, and maybe at higher altitudes and different pressures the seal is affected in a similar way.

The seal might have improved for me the more I used the same eartips

Re: The AirPods Pro 3 flight problem

#108

A wild guess as to what is happening. I haven’t actually tested this hypothesis so I could be completely wrong. In feedback systems, the gain is a function of frequency, and typically decreases when going from low frequency to high frequency. This is often accompanied by a phase delay. So if the overall gain of the system is high enough, there will be some high frequency where the gain is 1, and the phase is 180 degr…

That doesn’t explain why the issue seems to be specific to left APPs.

Re: The AirPods Pro 3 flight problem

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Is it the noise cancellation making a feedback sound, or is it the pressure differential in the ear canal pulling the ear drum back to produce a white noise? He said that it goes away when he yawns, so I'm thinking it might be the pressure differential.

Yawning alters the conformation of the external auditory canal by displacing the mandible, which articulates with the tympanic plate of the temporal bone adjacent to the canal. The seal might be so good that a small pressure differential happens as cabin pressure drops, which causes some issue with the microphone or speaker. Yawning might break that seal, or otherwise cause pressure equalization. Why only the left on…

> The seal might be so good that a small pressure differential happens as cabin pressure drops

That's my guess. I'm very sensitive to pressure changes and I know that cabin pressure on most planes is not constant even when cruising. It's in a range that most people won't notice but it definitely fluctuates near constantly within that band.

Re: The AirPods Pro 3 flight problem

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I frequently use my AirPods Pro when working in my shop. Previously the APP2 did a great job of reducing loud tool noise and I could mostly still listen to music or podcasts at reasonable levels. With the APP3, they are largely the same except with the louder tools (circular saw, cordless grinder) they produce a horrific feedback instead of canceling the noise. So much so that I switched back to my APP2 (which do not…

100% agree with the required update to 26, I was hugely bummed when I discovered I had to update my devices to pair them. I've had the opposite experience with noise cancelling though, the APP3 feel like magic when I'm working with power tools - better than any other (passive) ear protection I've tried in Noise Cancellation mode, and still enough protection in Transparency mode that I can use my circular saw without…

Huh, that's a good counter point. Perhaps something has changed between APP2 and APP3 that make them more susceptible to EMF, or maybe I have a bad pair. I'll attempt a replacement and see where we land.
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