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Asus Announces October Availability of ProArt Display 8K PA32KCX

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Re: Asus Announces October Availability of ProArt Display 8K PA32KCX

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Post by eurleif »

sim7c00 wrote: post #98
xnx wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> horrible latency for typing Was this the case even after enabling the TVs "game mode" that disables a lot of the latency inducing image processing (e.g. frame interpolation).

game mode is a scam. it breaks display quality on most TVs. and still doesn't respond as fast as a PC monitor with you can think 'but thats inhumanly fast, you wont notice it' but in reality, this is _very_ noticeable in games like counter-strike where hand-eye coordination, speed and pinpoint accuracy are key. if you play such games a lot then you will feel it if the latency goes above 1ms.

Where are you finding monitors with https://www.rtings.com/monitor/tests/inputs/input-lag

Re: Asus Announces October Availability of ProArt Display 8K PA32KCX

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Post by ChrisMarshallNY »

Nice monitor, but its target demographic is pretty small, and its price makes Eizo look cheap.

I’ve done a lot of color-calibrated work, and, for the most part, don’t like working in a calibrated system. I prefer good ol’ sRGB.

A calibrated system is a “least common denominator” system, where the least capable element dictates what all the others do. So you could have one of these monitors, but, if your printer has a limited gamut, all your images will look like mud, anyway, and printer technology is still pretty stagnant. There was a big burst of improvement in inkjets, but there hasn’t been much progress in a long time. Same with scanners. I have a 12-year-old HP flatbed that is still quite valid.

A lot of folks get twisted over a 60Hz refresh rate, but that’s not something I worry about. I’m old, and don’t game much. I also watch entertainment on my TV; not my monitor. 60Hz is fine, for me. Lots of room is my priority.

Re: Asus Announces October Availability of ProArt Display 8K PA32KCX

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Post by bee_rider »

ycombinete wrote: post #74
bee_rider wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Someone mentioned the latencies for gaming, but also I had a 4K TV as a monitor briefly that had horrible latency for typing, even. Enough of a delay between hitting a key and the terminal printing to throw off my cadence. Only electronic device I’ve ever returned. Also they tend to have stronger than necessary backlights. It might be possible to calibrate around this issue, but the thing is designed to be viewed fro…

You could probably circumvent this by putting the display into Gaming Mode, which most TVs have. It removes all the extra processing that TVs add to make the image "nicer". These processes add a hell of a lot of latency, which is obviously just fine for watching TV, but horrible for gaming or using as a pc monitor.

It was a while ago (5 years?), so I can’t say for certain, but I’m pretty sure I was aware of game mode at the time and played with the options enough to convince myself that it wasn’t there.

Re: Asus Announces October Availability of ProArt Display 8K PA32KCX

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Post by precompute »

inatreecrown2 wrote: post #97

i long for a “Eizo” like quality monitor, 15 or 17 inch, with “retina” ppi count. am i the only one who thinks that this would make sense?

Hey, I think that's a great idea, too. 4K panels on phones (tiny!) exist for some absurd reason. But somehow there are no 22" 4K monitors. I think they probably don't sell well. Probably the same reason why all monitors are 16:9.

Re: Asus Announces October Availability of ProArt Display 8K PA32KCX

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Post by sim7c00 »

eurleif wrote: post #101
sim7c00 wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

game mode is a scam. it breaks display quality on most TVs. and still doesn't respond as fast as a PC monitor with you can think 'but thats inhumanly fast, you wont notice it' but in reality, this is _very_ noticeable in games like counter-strike where hand-eye coordination, speed and pinpoint accuracy are key. if you play such games a lot then you will feel it if the latency goes above 1ms.

Where are you finding monitors with https://www.rtings.com/monitor/tests/inputs/input-lag

false advertisements :D

Re: Asus Announces October Availability of ProArt Display 8K PA32KCX

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Post by theshackleford »

eurleif wrote: post #101
sim7c00 wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

game mode is a scam. it breaks display quality on most TVs. and still doesn't respond as fast as a PC monitor with you can think 'but thats inhumanly fast, you wont notice it' but in reality, this is _very_ noticeable in games like counter-strike where hand-eye coordination, speed and pinpoint accuracy are key. if you play such games a lot then you will feel it if the latency goes above 1ms.

Where are you finding monitors with https://www.rtings.com/monitor/tests/inputs/input-lag

Most people lack an understanding of displays and therefore what they are quoting and are in fact quoting the vendors claimed pixel response time as the input lag.

It’s gotta be the most commonly mixed up things I’ve seen in the last twenty years as an enthusiast.

Re: Asus Announces October Availability of ProArt Display 8K PA32KCX

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Post by pornel »

4ggr0 wrote: post #95
martinald wrote: post #89

Me and a friend were just chatting how annoying it is monitors stalled out at 4K. I think I got my first set of 4k monitors ~15 years ago (!) and there's been no improvements since then apart from high end pro monitors resolution wise. Why is this? 5k/6k at 27" would be the sweet spot for me, and potentially 8k at 32". However, I'm not willing to drop $2k per monitor to go from a very nice 27" 4k to 27" 5k. You can g…

as a gamer 8k makes me sweat because i can't imagine what kind of hardware you'd need to run a game :O probably great for text-based work, though!

You don't really need 8K for gaming, but upscaling and frame generation have made game rendering resolution and display resolution almost independent.

Re: Asus Announces October Availability of ProArt Display 8K PA32KCX

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Post by Paianni »

martinald wrote: post #89

Me and a friend were just chatting how annoying it is monitors stalled out at 4K. I think I got my first set of 4k monitors ~15 years ago (!) and there's been no improvements since then apart from high end pro monitors resolution wise. Why is this? 5k/6k at 27" would be the sweet spot for me, and potentially 8k at 32". However, I'm not willing to drop $2k per monitor to go from a very nice 27" 4k to 27" 5k. You can g…

The Asus PA27JCV is rather less than $2k...

Re: Asus Announces October Availability of ProArt Display 8K PA32KCX

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Post by mikepurvis »

sim7c00 wrote: post #90
nine_k wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a designer, one should keep a couple of cheap, low-res monitors reset to the factory defaults for proofing what many users are going to see.

this exactly. same ppl do for sound, listen in the car, over shity headphones etc. - that's just quality control not the fault of any piece of equipment.

Yes this is universal in pro mixing setups, having filters or even actual physical hardware to provide the sound of stock earbuds, a crappy Bluetooth speaker, sound system in a minivan, etc.
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