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Twake Drive – An open-source alternative to Google Drive

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Re: Twake Drive – An open-source alternative to Google Drive

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Post by navigate8310 »

CaptainOfCoit wrote: post #92
Vipsy wrote: post #80

Open source drive tools live or die on three things. 1) Simple sync that never surprises. 2) Clean conflict handling you can explain to a non tech friend. 3) And zero drama upgrades. If Twake nails those and keeps a sane on prem story with S3 and LDAP, it has a shot. The harder part is trust and docs. Clear threat model. Crisp migration guides from Drive and Dropbox. And a tiny CLI that just works on a headless box.…

I'd add a fourth; "Make it easy to do backups and verify they're correct". I don't think I've ever considered a data store without that being one of my top concerns. This anxiety comes from real-life experience where the business I worked at had backups enabled for the primary data store for years, but when something finally happened and we lost some production data, we quickly discovered that the backups weren't act…

Schrödinger's backup. Testing the backup works involves even more engineering and non creative work.

Re: Twake Drive – An open-source alternative to Google Drive

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Post by meonkeys »

aborsy wrote: post #86
ponooqjoqo wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I tried to install nextcloud once, and it was an exercise in misery.

sudo snap install nextcloud That’s all! Auto updates and I can bet it will not break.

Is this a joke?

There's lots more to hosting your own file share/sync tool than just standing it up.

Re: Twake Drive – An open-source alternative to Google Drive

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Post by CaptainOfCoit »

navigate8310 wrote: post #101
CaptainOfCoit wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd add a fourth; "Make it easy to do backups and verify they're correct". I don't think I've ever considered a data store without that being one of my top concerns. This anxiety comes from real-life experience where the business I worked at had backups enabled for the primary data store for years, but when something finally happened and we lost some production data, we quickly discovered that the backups weren't act…

Schrödinger's backup. Testing the backup works involves even more engineering and non creative work.

Depends. Even something basic like "Check if the produced artifact is a valid .zip/.tar.gz" can be enough in the beginning, probably would have prevented the issue I shared before.

Then once you grow/need higher reliability, you can start adding more advanced checks, like it has the tables/data structures you expect and so on.

Re: Twake Drive – An open-source alternative to Google Drive

#105

Post by 6510 »

navigate8310 wrote: post #101
CaptainOfCoit wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd add a fourth; "Make it easy to do backups and verify they're correct". I don't think I've ever considered a data store without that being one of my top concerns. This anxiety comes from real-life experience where the business I worked at had backups enabled for the primary data store for years, but when something finally happened and we lost some production data, we quickly discovered that the backups weren't act…

Schrödinger's backup. Testing the backup works involves even more engineering and non creative work.

I had a funny where I somewhat regularly test an sql backup, then one day it didn't work, it worked the second time, the 3rd and the 4th. I have no idea why it didn't work. It turned into a permanent background process in the back of my head. The endless what-if loop.

Re: Twake Drive – An open-source alternative to Google Drive

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Post by orliesaurus »

Lots of talk about must‑have features and backups here...

BUT there's another piece that makes or breaks these tools... whether they can build a community around them and stick around for years...

Open‑source cloud storage projects come and go when maintainers burn out... a sustainable business model or strong contributor base matters as much as technical checklists...

ALSO interoperability is underrated... if your drive can speak WebDAV or S3 and plug into existing identity systems, teams are more likely to try it...

In the end people want something that won't vanish after the honeymoon... that's harder than adding a progress bar...

Re: Twake Drive – An open-source alternative to Google Drive

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Post by aborsy »

meonkeys wrote: post #103
aborsy wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

sudo snap install nextcloud That’s all! Auto updates and I can bet it will not break.

Is this a joke? There's lots more to hosting your own file share/sync tool than just standing it up.

No, it was serious!

He complained about the difficulty of installing an application. He didn’t complain about establishing a personal data center.

That one line will give you the Nextcloud. Exactly one more line in snap will give you a self sign cert. Alternatively, the line below will give you remote access, a domain, and a valid certificate for your application:

curl -fsSL https://tailscale.com/install.sh | sh

You will have a functioning personal Drive on a VPS or a computer at this point!

Toggle snapshots on VPS for backups.

Setting up services with public clouds also takes some steps.

Re: Twake Drive – An open-source alternative to Google Drive

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Post by awwaiid »

tantalor wrote: post #97
3idet wrote: post #75

58.9% TypeScript and 32.6% JavaScript wouldn't be my first preference to implement such a high performance and throughput demanding application? Why is that?

> 58.9% TypeScript and 32.6% JavaScript Isn't that just 91.5% JavaScript? TypeScript is not real.

Almost, but not entirely, unlike birds

Re: Twake Drive – An open-source alternative to Google Drive

#109

Post by maxlin »

Given how integrated Drive and Docs are, if this doesn't have docs-like collaborative realtime document editing, for many people this is like "30% of Google Drive"

For people whose UX is dragging and dropping stuff to browser, and/or using a desktop sync client only, sure why not, the UI looks clean and familiar. But as someone who has used and still uses like 3 different similar things concurrently, the only real reason I use drive is because of the seamless zero-dependency office-like web software being part of the product.

(yes I know it's a curse too, I ended up writing a piece of software just to migrate company drive stuff to my personal drive when a company I was a cofounder in went bust to have a record ... those google docs can really only exist in Drive natively, any export is an immediate downgrade)

Re: Twake Drive – An open-source alternative to Google Drive

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Post by [deleted] »

CaptainOfCoit wrote: post #104
navigate8310 wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Schrödinger's backup. Testing the backup works involves even more engineering and non creative work.

Depends. Even something basic like "Check if the produced artifact is a valid .zip/.tar.gz" can be enough in the beginning, probably would have prevented the issue I shared before. Then once you grow/need higher reliability, you can start adding more advanced checks, like it has the tables/data structures you expect and so on.

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