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ROG Xbox Ally runs better on Linux than Windows it ships with

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Re: ROG Xbox Ally runs better on Linux than Windows it ships with

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Post by Marsymars »

dijit wrote: post #86
klipklop wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just refuse to buy games that rely on kernel-level anti-cheat to work.

I have been working in the industry now for 11 years, and this defeatism surrounding anticheat is frustrating. Especially when Epics anticheat which used to be free to use, supports linux.

Is it defeatism? I don’t game on Linux and generally like Windows, but from a principle and security perspective I’d preferably check a box on Windows to disallow any kernel-level anticheat from installing, and avoid any such games.

Re: ROG Xbox Ally runs better on Linux than Windows it ships with

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Post by eru »

gjsman-1000 wrote: post #75
terribleperson wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just speaking from things we can see, he owns yachts, a yacht building company, and a racing team. He also quite likely has a large investment portfolio like every other billionaire on the planet.

Let's say all those things added up to even $2B, as a hypothetical. That means there's a $800M tax bill to keep those assets. If the estate has already lost majority control of Steam regardless; there's no real reason to not hand over even more of Steam, to keep hold of those other assets.

Why would the estate have lost majority control of Steam regardless?

Re: ROG Xbox Ally runs better on Linux than Windows it ships with

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Post by eru »

nosrepa wrote: post #80
gjsman-1000 wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A. What assets matter at this scale? B. They are also taxed at 40% C. And the estate may just want to sell more Steam shares to keep whatever they are intact D. Even if by some miracle Gabe Newell still owns the required ~85% of Steam to barely squeak by on federal estate taxes ($16B presumed valuation = ~$5.5 billion tax bill if he owned 85%, leaving him with ~51% after payment), who is taking the reins? - edits - a…

A. Well, he does own a fleet of yachts.

Yachts are a hole in the water that you throw money into.

Ie they are more of a consumption than an investment.

Re: ROG Xbox Ally runs better on Linux than Windows it ships with

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Post by eru »

gjsman-1000 wrote: post #73
kjkjadksj wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don’t rich people just gift their money and assets to a relative or trust to avoid those inheritance taxes?

The Federal Gift tax is the same as the inheritance tax - 40% - after the thresholds are maxed out. Trusts also pay the gift tax at the time of the transfer. Trusts grant control, not much in tax exemptions at this scale.

Do these taxes still apply, even if you use a charitable trust?

Re: ROG Xbox Ally runs better on Linux than Windows it ships with

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Post by ndriscoll »

dijit wrote: post #86
klipklop wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just refuse to buy games that rely on kernel-level anti-cheat to work.

I have been working in the industry now for 11 years, and this defeatism surrounding anticheat is frustrating. Especially when Epics anticheat which used to be free to use, supports linux.

What does defeatism mean here? As opposed to lobbying our representatives to make DRM (of which anticheat is a subset) or product tying restrictions (e.g. artificially requiring something to run on Windows/Xbox or Google Android or a Switch when a generic computer is perfectly capable of running it) illegal or something?

Re: ROG Xbox Ally runs better on Linux than Windows it ships with

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Post by rangestransform »

grosswait wrote: post #29
drnick1 wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use Arch pretty much exclusively these days on my desktop, but this isn't quite true. Most of the time, Proton has a small performance impact (around 5% lower FPS), but some games tend to suffer more. For example Helldivers 2 runs around 10fps lower, which is pretty significant since I only got around 60-70 FPS on Windows at 4K (using a 3090). Still, Proton is an amazing tool and these days it just works so well. T…

You’re comparing a game running on a compatibility layer, running on Linux to a game running directly on Windows. Not quite what the parent comment was stating.

Proton is essentially the only stable ABI that Linux game devs can target

Re: ROG Xbox Ally runs better on Linux than Windows it ships with

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Post by cortesoft »

eru wrote: post #93
cortesoft wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have been playing Madden and FIFA/FC for 30 years now. I love them. I love being able to play competitively against other people without having cheaters in every game. Those two desires (to play Madden and FIFA/FC and play online without cheaters) requires that I not simply refuse to buy those games.

Sure, but on the margin you can still change your behaviour. Ie for games that previously you were on the fence about, a look at whether they play or do not play well on the Steam Deck or Linux in general can push you over the fence (on way or another).

Like I said, I have a lot of games that I love playing on the Steam Deck. I am often looking for games that run well on Steam Deck.

I am not sure what behavior on the margins I can change that would change the situation. My favorite games can't be played on Steam Deck. Like I said, I have been playing these games for 30 years. I am not about to change my favorite games just so I can make a point about the importance of Steam Deck compatibility. That won't change anything other than I won't be able to play my favorite games anymore.

Honestly, I am happy that they have added proper PC support along with cross platform play at all. Most sports games focus almost exclusively on consoles, and most of the player base play on consoles. Before they added cross platform gameplay a few years ago, it was really hard to find games when I would try to play online. Now it is easy.

The reason they are able to offer cross platform support is because of the anti-cheat.

Take. for example, the NBA2k series, which I used to play a lot; the anti-cheat for PC is awful. They don't allow cross platform play because of that, so games are hard to find and every few games you play a game against a guy who is 12 feet tall and hits every 3 pointer from any spot on the court. It was so bad I stopped playing entirely. For years I settled on playing on XBOX, but i eventually got annoyed enough i stopped buying the game completely.

Re: ROG Xbox Ally runs better on Linux than Windows it ships with

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Post by d3Xt3r »

cortesoft wrote: post #88
klipklop wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just refuse to buy games that rely on kernel-level anti-cheat to work.

I have been playing Madden and FIFA/FC for 30 years now. I love them. I love being able to play competitively against other people without having cheaters in every game. Those two desires (to play Madden and FIFA/FC and play online without cheaters) requires that I not simply refuse to buy those games.

> without having cheaters in every game.

That's highly debatable. How do you know for certain they aren't using any undetectable cheats (like a driver-level cheat, say an aim assist) or a hardware level cheat? Cheating aside, how do you know that they aren't better than you simply because they've got better hardware? How do you get satisfaction from playing such games when there's so many variables that can affect gameplay that goes beyond human skill that you can't do anything about?

Re: ROG Xbox Ally runs better on Linux than Windows it ships with

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Post by eru »

AHTERIX5000 wrote: post #77
nick__m wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I consider that the core of Windows (the NT kernel and win32 api) is actually a very polished gem but it is encased in layers of upon layers of barely polished turds ( winui, the win11 shell, the over agressive telemetry, forced ms635 integration, etc..)

The kernel might be a polished gem but win32 API? Practical is a term I'd use as win32 has managed to survive to this day but that came with a boatload of hacks and problems. It's ugly.

When you run Steam games on Linux that mostly goes via a version of Wine, which implements win32.

Yes, win32 is ugly, and so is x86.

Re: ROG Xbox Ally runs better on Linux than Windows it ships with

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Post by klipklop »

Uvix wrote: post #50
klipklop wrote: post #31

I know this is extreme, but people buying these Xbox handhelds over a Steam Deck are directly harming the future of gaming on PC. It's time that the PC gaming ecosystem breaks free from its dependency on Windows. Proton and SteamOS, combined with the unpopular mess that is Windows 11 is the perfect opportunity to do so. The long-term end goal for Microsoft is to lock down Windows and force signed code. Once users are…

Steam is doing the same thing as Microsoft, between DRM-locking everything so you don't own it, and gatekeeping what titles are actually allowed in their store. They're both locking you into their vision of the future.

No they are not. You can install the Epic store and others right on a Steam deck and use it. You can start any binary you wish, direct from the steam launcher. You can use the steam deck as a full-on desktop if you wished.
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