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Isn't there a link between high intelligence and depression as well?
is being good at chess a proof of human intelligence?
yes, it's a proof of human intelligence at chess. nothing more.
Chess grandmaster Daniel Naroditsky has died
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#102holy shit. there’s an interesting (but not necessarily causual in either direction) link between chess and depression https://www.chess.com/blog/AstroTheoretical_Physics/chess-pl... either how, RIP
There is a correlation between IQ and depression: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S016028961...
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#103There's huge pink elephant that I think many aren't aware of here. A former chess world champion, Vladimir Kramnik, has turned into a sort of self satire seeking out cheaters in online chess. Basically everybody is cheating according to him, he even implied Hikaru Nakamura, the 2nd strongest player in the world, could be cheating. Eventually his sights fell on Danya. At first I thought they were both kind of playing…
He had a very bad time at Freestyle a while ago and he quit that if I remember correctly. These things could be many reasons, internal and external. Stop accusing Kramnik, everyone knows he throws around cheating accusations at anything that moves.
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#104There's huge pink elephant that I think many aren't aware of here. A former chess world champion, Vladimir Kramnik, has turned into a sort of self satire seeking out cheaters in online chess. Basically everybody is cheating according to him, he even implied Hikaru Nakamura, the 2nd strongest player in the world, could be cheating. Eventually his sights fell on Danya. At first I thought they were both kind of playing…
Indeed, he also quit commenting, which he was really good at and seemed to enjoy doing in the past
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You might not ever get titled, but a 1400 online is very much good enough to join your national chess federation and be middle of the pack competitive in local rated chess tournaments and the like.
I feel weird doing a 'well actually' in a post about something so serious and sad, but it might be worth pointing this out to prevent someone from getting the wrong idea about their chess strength: the meaning of '1400 online' varies greatly depending on the site and the time control. According to https://chessgoals.com/rating-comparison/ , Chesscom blitz 500 = Lichess classical 1400, and chesscom blitz 1400 = liches…
Lichess defaults starting rating to 1400 I think so it's about -200 less than chess.com, which defaults to 1200.
Also the player pool for the latter is much larger. Not sure if that has an impact on elo which is basically normalized across playerbase
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#106There's huge pink elephant that I think many aren't aware of here. A former chess world champion, Vladimir Kramnik, has turned into a sort of self satire seeking out cheaters in online chess. Basically everybody is cheating according to him, he even implied Hikaru Nakamura, the 2nd strongest player in the world, could be cheating. Eventually his sights fell on Danya. At first I thought they were both kind of playing…
So Kramnik likes to engage in mobbing? What does the community say about this?
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#107Earlier quoted context omitted.
Isn't there a link between high intelligence and depression as well?
is being good at chess a proof of human intelligence?
Intelligence has been defined in many ways: the capacity for abstraction, logic, understanding, self-awareness, learning, emotional knowledge, reasoning, planning, creativity, critical thinking, and problem-solving. It can be described as the ability to perceive or infer information and to retain it as knowledge to be applied to adaptive behaviors within an environment or context.
(from Wikipedia)
Intelligence is multifactoral. Being good at chess was one aspect of intelligence in the complexity of Daniel's life, and in anyone's life.
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#109Earlier quoted context omitted.
Isn't there a link between high intelligence and depression as well?
is being good at chess a proof of human intelligence?
Maybe, exactly what are you asking? What even is intelligence - that is a question I've never seen formally answered (and even if someone does, their definition may not match your intuitive feel for what it means and thus it is useless outside of the exact paper they defined it in)
Formal definitions aside, it isn't possible for "stupid" people to be good at chess. There also is no other animal or known alien that is good at chess. Thus being good at chess is a strong sign of an intelligent human.
We can't go the other way. There are plenty of humans generally known to be "intelligent" who are not good at chess. There is a lot more than intelligence needed to be good at chess (practice and study come to mind, there might be more).
While there are no known aliens that are good at chess, that doesn't preclude that we may discover them in the future. (not in your lifetime though - the speed of light is too slow for them to learn the rules of our chess and communicate back proof that they are good, no matter how intelligent they are)
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#110Earlier quoted context omitted.
Isn't there a link between high intelligence and depression as well?
is being good at chess a proof of human intelligence?
Being good at most things is correlated with intelligence, including activities like music: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6682658/