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Windows 10 refugees flock to Linux in what devs call their "biggest launch"

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Re: Windows 10 refugees flock to Linux in what devs call their "biggest launch"

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Honestly, nowadays, for new comers I would not advise to use Ubuntu anymore. It is just a shadow of itself, most often than not inconvenient and broken for user in term of ux. I would suggest to use Linux Mint or Pop_os for example.

Why? The only complaint I hear about and sort of agree with is that they use snaps, and that's not always a good idea for some packages. But otherwise, for regular users, I'd say Ubuntu has much less foot guns than even Mint. Everything just works, and it's easier to find support and help online whenever something doesn't. I Pop_os is in a weird state right now too, with the upcoming migration to their new GUI framew…

Mint is pretty much Ubuntu with a saner DE. But don't underestimate the benefits of the latter.

Re: Windows 10 refugees flock to Linux in what devs call their "biggest launch"

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Wifi never seems to work 'out the box', so be ready to connect to the internet using ethernet to download the latest drivers and thus get wifi to work.

Wifi works most of the time out of the box, for many years now. That was different two decades ago, but that's a long time. But if it does not work that is highly annoying of course.

That is just plainly not true with USB WiFi adapters because the vendors constantly switch chipsets, and not all of them have good (or any) support.

Re: Windows 10 refugees flock to Linux in what devs call their "biggest launch"

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Around 22% is "recycled" sometimes in disgusting ways: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5r4hFY_oh8 Same story with clothes, paper and plastic recycling, it's just talk and green-washing.

The question is, how much guilt-free landfill waste should each person get to create in their lifetime? Don't say zero.

The problem isn't landfills; it's the toxic substances being spread all over our planet, as seen in the video. Just stop telling people that e-waste is being recycled—it's mostly a lie.

But i can answer you the "guilt-free" part it's really easy:

Don't buy stuff you don't need, or stuff that's just for short-time-fun (Labubu vs. Guitar) ;)

Re: Windows 10 refugees flock to Linux in what devs call their "biggest launch"

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The day EA games will run on Linux will be the day Windows dies IMHO. This will mean full support of all broken graphical APIs and stability of drivers from e.g. nvidia that currently looks like a rollercoaster ride - every other app works stable on different nvidia driver. As W10 user, W11 denialer I’m waiting for that day!

EA games work on linux. Have for many years.

Re: Windows 10 refugees flock to Linux in what devs call their "biggest launch"

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Is anyone here even still using Windows in a professional way?

Judging from the comments on Windows related threads here. Nobody here has even seen Windows for last 20 years. Every comment is basically whatever they have seen on Twitter, TikTok, Reddit or Slashdot

Re: Windows 10 refugees flock to Linux in what devs call their "biggest launch"

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> No, only containerized things need to be in a container. For everything else you are just using Windows except it feels more Linux like with git bash and has most basic Linux tools. But developer focused software is trash on Windows, if I want to remain productive I need a Linux environment so I can just run stuff without having to fuck around to configure it for Windows and what not.

Maybe but curious as to what you mean by developer focused software.

Well, I guess docker is as good of an example as anything. Using it on Linux is a much smoother experience than Windows+VM/WSL2 could ever be.

Re: Windows 10 refugees flock to Linux in what devs call their "biggest launch"

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Maybe but curious as to what you mean by developer focused software.

Well, I guess docker is as good of an example as anything. Using it on Linux is a much smoother experience than Windows+VM/WSL2 could ever be.

Oh ok. If you use podman instead there isn't as much friction. Just type "podman" instead of "docker" as the commands are the same.

winget install -e --id RedHat.Podman

podman run --it --rm -p 8000:8000 .. image

For gitbash, add a new profile in Windows Terminal and find "bash.exe" in Program Files\Git (sorry I can't remember the details and not on Windows right now). Once you have this you can use normal Linux commands, setup a .bashrc, ls, cd ~, vi, etc.

Anyway, food for thought in case you want to try a different workflow one day.

Re: Windows 10 refugees flock to Linux in what devs call their "biggest launch"

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I'm one of these people. Although it was a several years long plan for me, which involved learning new software (especially 3DS Max to Blender). I finally decided to bite the bullet around 8 weeks ago. Backed up everything, wiped Windows, installed Ubuntu. I wouldn't says it's been smooth sailing. I've had a ton of technical issues which are not all resolved (I still can't get my laptop to wake from sleep, I have to…

> Don't recommend other people to install Linux on random laptops, they'll probably have loads of minor and major issues that you don't have if you bought hardware specifically with the goal of running Linux.

I think this is a wrong approach. These are the first two thoughts that come to mind: 1. A major reason for migrating from Windows 10 to Linux is avoiding e-waste and by encouraging others to acquire a device specifically for Linux causes more e-waste to be generated (I don't deny the benefits of picking special hardware, I just think this it something worth pointing out). 2. Linux generally has excellent hardware support in my experience and while not everything may be plug-and-play, it's usually easy to get it working. I've installed Linux on an old no-name laptop with really unusual hardware and while Windows required special drivers (which I couldn't find) for audio, webcam and wireless networking, with Linux all worked out of the box. Many issues with laptops running Linux have already been solved. You might find the Laptops category in the Arch Wiki [1] useful.

> A lot of minor display related issues (mostly involving using an external monitor as my main screen) were solved when I switched to Gnome on X11 instead of Wayland.

Display issues are indeed one of the weak points of Linux, frequently due to the need for proprietary graphics drivers which may not even be available on Linux. X11 is more stable in this regard, as it is way more mature, but Wayland is catching up quickly.

Linux isn't perfect and you can certainly improve your experience by preferring well-tested setups, but existing hardware can be brought back to life, which is important. Not everyone can afford new devices.

Re: Windows 10 refugees flock to Linux in what devs call their "biggest launch"

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Why? The only complaint I hear about and sort of agree with is that they use snaps, and that's not always a good idea for some packages. But otherwise, for regular users, I'd say Ubuntu has much less foot guns than even Mint. Everything just works, and it's easier to find support and help online whenever something doesn't. I Pop_os is in a weird state right now too, with the upcoming migration to their new GUI framew…

Mint is pretty much Ubuntu with a saner DE. But don't underestimate the benefits of the latter.

I wouldn't say "saner", I think it's just more familiar for Windows users.
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