We've experienced something similar: for compute-heavy rendering tasks, AWS just wasn't good enough. EC2 machines with the same spec perform much worse than Hetzner machines
Yeah shared vCPU can be really bad.
Migrating from AWS to Hetzner
101–110 of 643 posts
Re: Migrating from AWS to Hetzner
#102I think you can get much farther with dedicated servers. I run a couple of nodes on Hetzner. The performance you get from a dedicated machine even if it is a 3 year old machine that you can get on server auction is absolutely bonkers and cannot be compared to VMs. The thing is that most of the server hardware is focused towards high core count, low clock speed processors that optimize for I/O rather than compute. It…
> I would love to know if they are any north-american (particularly canadian) companies that can compete with price and the quality of service like Hetzner FWIW, Hetzner has two data centers in the US, in case you're just looking for "Hetzner quality but in the US", not for "American/Canadian companies similar to Hetzner".
IIRC, Hetzners dedicated instances are only available in their German and Finnish data centers, not anywhere else sadly :/
Re: Migrating from AWS to Hetzner
#103I tried my best to start using Hetzner, but they wouldn't let me.
I got my account validation rejected despite having everything "in norm" and tried 3 times, they wouldn't give me a reason why it ended up rejected.
I think it's better that way, I wouldn't like to get the surprise my account was terminated at some point after that.
Re: Migrating from AWS to Hetzner
#104Earlier quoted context omitted.
is it really redundant when you host at the same provider?
If you're doing VPSes, then maybe, as long as they're not under the same node. If it's dedicated servers, then probably. But I think "redundancy" is more like a spectrum, rather than a binary thing. You can be more or less redundant, even within the same VPS if you'd like, but that of course be less redundant than hosting things across multiple data centers.
And it's cheap enough that you can have replicated setup across two different providers and still be cheaper than one expensive cloud provider.
While AWS is probably towards the safer end if you want to put all your eggs in one basket, people are still putting all their eggs in one basket if they have everything at AWS as well...
Re: Migrating from AWS to Hetzner
#105AWS won't raise the limits on our new account (we're stuck at 1GB RAM in Lightsail after 2 months, even though we need to launch this month). Looking at Hetzner or Vultr as alternatives. A few folks mentioned me Infomaniak has great service and uptime, but I haven't heard much about them otherwise. Anyone used Infomaniak in production? How do they compare to Hetzner/Vultr?
Are you using Lightsail rather than normal EC2 and other AWS services?
Just wondering if your limits just apply to lightsail or normal stuff too.
Re: Migrating from AWS to Hetzner
#106I think you can get much farther with dedicated servers. I run a couple of nodes on Hetzner. The performance you get from a dedicated machine even if it is a 3 year old machine that you can get on server auction is absolutely bonkers and cannot be compared to VMs. The thing is that most of the server hardware is focused towards high core count, low clock speed processors that optimize for I/O rather than compute. It…
> I would love to know if they are any north-american (particularly canadian) companies that can compete with price and the quality of service like Hetzner.
In a thread two days ago https://ioflood.com/ was recommended as US-based alternative
Re: Migrating from AWS to Hetzner
#107We’ve been seeing the same trend. Lots of teams moving to Hetzner for the price/performance, but then realizing they have to rebuild all the Postgres ops pieces (backups, failover, monitoring, etc.). We ended up building a managed Postgres that runs directly on Hetzner. Same setup, but with HA, backups, and PITR handled for you. It’s open-source, runs close to the metal, and avoids the egress/I/O gotchas you get on A…
This is one key draw to Big Cloud and especially PaaS and managed SQL for me (and dev teams I advise). Not having an ops background I am nervous about: * database backup+restore * applying security patches on time (at OS and runtime levels) * other security issues like making sure access to prod machines is restricted correctly, access is logged, ports are locked down, abnormal access patterns are detected * DoS and…
I can attest to that. At Cloud 66 a lot of customers tell us that while the PaaS experience on Hetzner is great, they benefit from our managed DBs the most.
Re: Migrating from AWS to Hetzner
#108I really liked Hetzner but I got burned by one issue. I had some personal projects running there and the payment method failed. Automated email communications also failed among so much spam and email notifications I receive, and when I noticed the problem they had wiped all my data without possibility of recovery. It was a wake up moment for me about keeping billing in shape, but also made me understand that a cloud…
Sorry to hear that. But if you do not pay and you do not check your e-mails, it's basically your fault. Who is using SMS these days even?
Yes, absolutely my fault. But these problems happen. Credit cards expire, people change companies or go on leaves, off boarding processes are not always perfect, spam filters exist.
Add to that the declining experience of email with so much marketing and trash landing in the inbox (and sometimes Gmail categorizing important emails as "Updates")
That's why grace periods for these situations are important.
Who uses SMS? This might be a cultural difference, but in Europe they are still used a lot. And would you be ok if your utility company cut your electricity bill just with an email warning? Or being asked to appear to court by email?
Re: Migrating from AWS to Hetzner
#109Saving $426/mo for a business seems like a waste of time and resources. The excessive frugal developer complex. How many hours did it take to do the migration?
A quick background check on digitalsociety.coop reveals that 5000 US$/year was a significant sum for them in 2024 and that opportunity costs were probably negligible. Not everybody has money to burn.
Re: Migrating from AWS to Hetzner
#110+1 to running services on physical servers, OVH in my case. I'm really enjoying CI pushing to servers and having managed database provided by a 3rd party like Mongo Atlas.
Isn’t there quite a significant latency problem if you’re going across the internet for db instead of say, the same switch?