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The real crime is that it starts at 1799 euros, which is $2100, vs $1599 in the US, I know US prices are before tax but even with 20% VAT you're far off...

Tariffs... Someone has to pay them and it sure isn't Apple.

Macbooks shipped to Europe don't ever touch US ground (and I'd wager 99.9% of their parts don't either). So US tarriffs should be irrelevant - and the EU doesn't have big China tarriffs outside of EV and solar panel anti-dumping retaliation.

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Apple’s chip release schedule is so borked. It should be High end Pro and Studio first and then iPad, Air, Mini and downgraded Pro. Why they release the iPad and Low End Pro is beyond me. Everyone buying their high end gear is buying something waiting to be refreshed now.

Apple’s chip release schedule is so borked. It should be High end Pro and Studio first and then iPad, Air, Mini and downgraded Pro. Why they release the iPad and Low End Pro is beyond me.

People in the U.S. are starting to think about their Christmas shopping lists right about now.

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tariffs... Someone has to pay them and it sure isn't Apple.

I think you read him backwards. It’s still cheaper in the US. Tariffs certainly exist in Europe but I’m unaware of any on these laptops and US Tariffs on goods from China don’t apply to goods from China to anywhere else that isn’t the US.

It should rather be "public option healthcare, social safety nets, and a robust surveillance state aren't going to pay for themselves"

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Apple’s chip release schedule is so borked. It should be High end Pro and Studio first and then iPad, Air, Mini and downgraded Pro. Why they release the iPad and Low End Pro is beyond me. Everyone buying their high end gear is buying something waiting to be refreshed now.

I’m guessing this is so they optimize processor yields as manufacturing improves

Smaller chips means more of a wafer is usable when a defect exists

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Anyone know when to expect the M5 Pros? I am on a base 16gb M1 and struggling hard in daily workloads. I am often running at 20gb of swap memory usage. I don't really use local LLMs but think 32GB RAM would be good for me... but I am so ready to upgrade but trying to figure out how much longer we need to wait.

First rule of mac world is get the most memory you can afford.

I got the cheapest m1 pro (the weird one they sold thats binned due to defects) with 32gb ram and everything runs awesome.

Always get the most ram you can in mac world. Running a largish local LLM model is slowish but it does run.

A mac out of memory is just a totally different machine than one with.

probably because most of the devs building the software are on the highest ram possible and there is just so much testing and optimization they dont do.

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Apparently, in Europe, the box will not contain a charger [1]. This is absolutely mind-blowing to me. edit: suggested retail price also dropped with EUR 100. Mind is less blown now. It seems like a good thing in fact. edit2: in Belgium, the combined price of the 70W adapter and 2m USB-C to MagSafe is EUR 120. [1] https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/new-macbook-pro-does-no...

The real crime is that it starts at 1799 euros, which is $2100, vs $1599 in the US, I know US prices are before tax but even with 20% VAT you're far off...

1599 plus a 20% VAT is 1918. That's... far from the worst it's been TBH.

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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To any Linux users, I recently bought a fully loaded M4 MacBook pro to replace my aging Lenovo and strongly regret it. I thought I would use it for playing with LLMs, but local dev on a Mac is not fun and I still don't have it fully set up. I'll probably replace it with a framework at some point in the near future. Edit: okay, that garnered more attention than I expected, I guess I owe a qualification. 1. Everything…

> I thought I would use it for playing with LLMs, but local dev on a Mac is not fun and I still don't have it fully set up. Sounds more like a you problem, probably due to unfamiliarity. There are endless options for local dev on a Mac, and a huge share of devs using one.

Agreed, as a software engineer of ~8 years now Mac is actually my _preferred_ environment -- I find it an extremely productive OS for development whether I'm working on full stack or Unity game dev in my free time.

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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it says "up to 14 hours more than intel based mpro", which means intel was designed to last 10 hours which matches what was advertised https://web.archive.org/web/20201109092341/https://www.apple... we went from 10 hours to 24 hours in 5 years - impressive i wonder why they advertise gaming on the laptop, anyone plays anything Meaningful on macbooks?

I would guess they are mostly talking to game devs for now, but man in a few years if Apple can get me to throw out my windows rig that me and I imagine many others have around just for gaming I wouldn't hate that!

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

#110

Anyone know when to expect the M5 Pros? I am on a base 16gb M1 and struggling hard in daily workloads. I am often running at 20gb of swap memory usage. I don't really use local LLMs but think 32GB RAM would be good for me... but I am so ready to upgrade but trying to figure out how much longer we need to wait.

First rule of mac world is get the most memory you can afford. I got the cheapest m1 pro (the weird one they sold thats binned due to defects) with 32gb ram and everything runs awesome. Always get the most ram you can in mac world. Running a largish local LLM model is slowish but it does run. A mac out of memory is just a totally different machine than one with. probably because most of the devs building the software…

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