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Apple Vision Pro upgraded with M5 chip

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Re: Apple Vision Pro upgraded with M5 chip

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Post by ceejayoz »

lewiscollard wrote: post #99
ceejayoz wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"$3.5k for 256 GB is extreme" 256GB is $3499; 512GB is $3699; 1TB is $3899. You're paying ~$200 for that storage.

You removed some words just now, which changes the meaning of the sentence. > but the base $3.5k spec with only 256 GB is extreme. The plain meaning of this sentence is "I expect more than 256 GB of storage when paying $3.5K for a device". You can argue for or against that if you like (I don't give a shit, because I would not buy it at any price), but not against something they did not say.

> You removed some words just now, which changes the meaning of the sentence.

I did not, no.

The parent poster's "EDIT: clarity" note should be a clue here.

Re: Apple Vision Pro upgraded with M5 chip

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Post by OisinMoran »

DennisP wrote: post #23

I was super interested in the Vision Pro when it was first released. Then I found out they went with an app model and the device could only display a single MacOS window. There went my dream of surrounding myself with a bunch of vim windows and terminals. If they'd focused on maximizing the device's usefulness instead of its revenue stream, maybe things would have worked out better.

Yeah this would honestly be incredible and actually deserving of the "spatial computing" moniker.

I would love to be able to have a dedicated spatial location for each part of my Django app: look over here for the CSS, step here for the views, scroll through the logs over here...

Re: Apple Vision Pro upgraded with M5 chip

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Post by iambateman »

jccalhoun wrote: post #91
iambateman wrote: post #2

Oh boy. This is bad for Vision Pro... Apple would never make such a small deal about upgrading the chip in one of their products unless they thought that product was toast. I wonder if they're just in full pivot mode to glasses.

If they thought the product was toast why would they bother updating the processor? It isn't like they update the processor in the mac pro regularly or anything.

For less mature products, they frequently make a big deal about it being 23% faster and 10% lighter.

Re: Apple Vision Pro upgraded with M5 chip

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Post by [deleted] »

lewiscollard wrote: post #99
ceejayoz wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"$3.5k for 256 GB is extreme" 256GB is $3499; 512GB is $3699; 1TB is $3899. You're paying ~$200 for that storage.

You removed some words just now, which changes the meaning of the sentence. > but the base $3.5k spec with only 256 GB is extreme. The plain meaning of this sentence is "I expect more than 256 GB of storage when paying $3.5K for a device". You can argue for or against that if you like (I don't give a shit, because I would not buy it at any price), but not against something they did not say.

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Re: Apple Vision Pro upgraded with M5 chip

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Post by karmakaze »

abtinf wrote: post #97
tetrisgm wrote: post #82

I love my first gen Apple Vision Pro. I find that most of the criticism isn’t addressed at the product and technology, but at the price and Apple’s strategy. Price will go down in five years, once the tech mature la. For now this is a bit like how the Oculus DK1 was. An early device to explore what the overall vision is about, and figure out the apps.

What do you use it for? How often do you use it?

Use was never claimed, only love for.

Re: Apple Vision Pro upgraded with M5 chip

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Post by swiftcoder »

alt227 wrote: post #76
simultsop wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When you say: "it wont be long" you mean like another 50 years, right?

What do you mean? This problem has already been solved and is just a case of miniturisation which history has shown the industry can do very quickly. 5 Years and there will not be a 'headset' on sale anymore. It will all be normal sized glasses.

> miniturisation which history has shown the industry can do very quickly. 5 Years...

Sadly I think you are vastly overestimating the rate of progress here. Quest 2 came out 5 years ago - in those 5 years we've shrunk headset volume by about half (mostly due to pancake lenses). We'll need to find another fundamental improvement in lens technology to shrink the next 50%

Re: Apple Vision Pro upgraded with M5 chip

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Post by scrlk »

zamadatix wrote: post #86
ceejayoz wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"$3.5k for 256 GB is extreme" 256GB is $3499; 512GB is $3699; 1TB is $3899. You're paying ~$200 for that storage.

I think the meaning was meant more as a `Nobody would intend to buy a new sports car with 14" wheels, but they sure love to advertise the price lower prices for sports cars by making a trim that way` type statement than "gee, $3,500 for an SSD!". Edit: the clarity edit of the original seems to agree. Apple's SSDs are actually priced a bit silly though, but I think that's a different discussion. It was significantly c…

Yes, that what I was trying to aim for.

Some further thoughts: two of the use cases AVP was pitched for are content consumption (streaming + offline) and spatial video/photo production. IMO the base storage should reflect that.

Given that AVP sales are struggling, I’m not sure why Apple isn’t trying to throw people a bone and offer a more reasonable amount of storage in the base config.

Re: Apple Vision Pro upgraded with M5 chip

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Post by stetrain »

stronglikedan wrote: post #92
stetrain wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Weird, that description doesn't apply at all to my experiences as a developer using Macs for the last few years. Personally I find a Mac to be a better development environment than Windows even for Microsoft tech like the dotnet stack.

> Personally That word right there means that we can both be correct, because I personally find MacOS to be frustrating for Dev compared to every other alternative. Great for creativity , but not so much for productivity .

Sure. The comment I replied to wasn’t so qualified.

Re: Apple Vision Pro upgraded with M5 chip

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Post by karmakaze »

noveltyaccount wrote: post #13

It's still crazy to me that they put an M5 chip in this thing, but to run Mac apps you need a Mac. Just let the face computer be a computer!

It seemed silly to me, but then I remembered how Apple works. Create something that you can't have. Oh an M5 chip in something I won't buy. It would be great if we had M5's in MacBooks -> want. Apple manufactures desire first before satisfying that created 'new' market. Last time I recall was the iPad Pro's even before they started getting useful as very few people buy these. Scarcity sells.

The math isn't how many people will buy Vision Pro M5, it's how many have nots can be created by putting it in the Vision Pro.

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