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No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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Post by kstrauser »

chasing0entropy wrote: post #90

It baffles me how many people on HN cannot operate with a simple deny-all firewall. The windows version and updates I install are the only updates installed. The files I back up are the only files that back up. Nothing can connect to the internet. Not Windows Update, Not google chrome update, Not onedrive, Nor any virus or malware program. Reliance on the internet is the problem. No windows version including windows…

Eh, lots of us use Little Snitch or the equivalent. But I confess that seems like victim blaming to me. Users shouldn’t be expected to watch their freaking OS vendor like a hawk. That’s the one vendor you kind of have to trust: if they’re lying to you about what they’re doing, all bets are off.

This to me sounds like “I check my tire pressure every 8 miles because I don’t want them to explode catastrophically like they do for other people. Everyone should be doing this!” No. No, everyone should not have to do this.

Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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Post by xdfgh1112 »

acomjean wrote: post #38
creato wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

MacOS is just as aggressive about turning on icloud as windows is with it's crap.

I’ll concur with Apple being way more aggressive about this as well. icloud and if you try to use music on you iPhone with your collection of music Apple Music is always being pitched. Though the windows default start menu is something to behold these days (or widget panel..). I deleted Apple Maps from my phone because I never used it, but nothing would free up the 10 gigs of data it was storing…. Sigh. Linux is good…

New phone came with no standalone music player only YouTube Music. But fair play to them you can click "local files only" at first launch and it keeps out of your way.

Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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Post by [deleted] »

chasing0entropy wrote: post #90

It baffles me how many people on HN cannot operate with a simple deny-all firewall. The windows version and updates I install are the only updates installed. The files I back up are the only files that back up. Nothing can connect to the internet. Not Windows Update, Not google chrome update, Not onedrive, Nor any virus or malware program. Reliance on the internet is the problem. No windows version including windows…

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Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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Post by numpad0 »

Podrod wrote: post #36

I used to use Windows Backup with One Drive years ago but it just really pissed me off, especially with how My Documents is handled. There was that time I discovered several GB of screenshots had been automatically saved to My Pictures from some setting they snuck into the printscreen screen grab tool and then that of course those were automatically uploaded to the cloud. After disabling the option it would sometimes…

It enables in non-consensual manners, break apps and games(because paths change and APIs work differently), clings onto your files even if you tried to save them from the OneDrive folder, and throws a tantrum and irreversibly delete your files if you dare unlink the PC and disable it.

I don't know why they commit to especially the last part. To me, it feels like that is why Microsoft's Windows efforts are getting a lot of negative press lately; there must be lots of writers and media individuals who had lost data to that exact behavior who are now perpetually biased against them for that reason.

Just why?

Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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Post by nomilk »

chasing0entropy wrote: post #90

It baffles me how many people on HN cannot operate with a simple deny-all firewall. The windows version and updates I install are the only updates installed. The files I back up are the only files that back up. Nothing can connect to the internet. Not Windows Update, Not google chrome update, Not onedrive, Nor any virus or malware program. Reliance on the internet is the problem. No windows version including windows…

> It baffles me how many people on HN cannot operate with a simple deny-all firewall

What is the barrier IYO, is it that awareness (or technical knowledge) just isn't there, or that installing isn't the issue but doing day to day work with a restrictive firewall becomes an inconvenience?

Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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Post by bee_rider »

badsectoracula wrote: post #82
brushfoot wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My main reasons for using Windows right now are: - Davinci Resolve - Adobe suite - AutoHotkey scripts, lots of them - Microsoft Office, mainly PowerPoint, Excel and Word for creating and interacting with other companies' docs. Libre/OpenOffice mangled them/were missing features I depend on - Issues with my laptop's Nvidia card (screen tearing etc.) last time I tried to switch, and rabbit holes that I don't have time…

About AutoHotKey, you can do similar stuff as long as you are using X11 as there are various utilities for it, such as xdotool[0]. There is even an AutoHotKey-for-Linux project[1] (it also needs X11 - the author did try to port it to Wayland but gave up). For Wayland there are some alternatives like ydotool[2] (actually AFAIK since ydotool uses some daemon to inject events it works with anything, not just Wayland, bu…

I suspect the problem they were indicating with “AutoHotKey scripts, lots of them” is that they just have a lot of scripts they’d need to convert. I get it—even switching to a new WM or distro can be a real pain.

Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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Post by 3eb7988a1663 »

soupbowl wrote: post #45
CrossVR wrote: post #40

Since no one mentioned how to actually dismiss the notification forever: OneDrive is treated as a normal app that is installed by default, you can actually just uninstall it through Add or Remove Programs in the Control Panel.

During a major update it will be reinstalled.

Nuts. Is this still true? I just setup a Win11 Pro machine for a very non-technical person. Uninstalled OneDrive, hoping to minimize future pain when 90% of the needs are just a web browser and storing camera pictures.

(No, Linux was not an option)

Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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Post by eptcyka »

chasing0entropy wrote: post #90

It baffles me how many people on HN cannot operate with a simple deny-all firewall. The windows version and updates I install are the only updates installed. The files I back up are the only files that back up. Nothing can connect to the internet. Not Windows Update, Not google chrome update, Not onedrive, Nor any virus or malware program. Reliance on the internet is the problem. No windows version including windows…

I do not believe it is reasonable to use an OS where you need to do hostage negotiation on a daily basis. If you need to go this far, what will you do when an MS update adds a bypass for the firewall you’re using?

Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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Post by nokeya »

shmerl wrote: post #50
j1elo wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

IMHO Linux Mint keeps being the strongest option to recommend when the intention is a clean transition with the least amount of fiddling. It just works, it is reliable, and it doesn't play games with changes of basic technologies that can only cause confusion (e.g. none of the Ubuntu shenanigans like their confusing desktop or their non-Debian packaging)

I wouldn't recommend Mint. Better use something with recent KDE Plasma and recent kernel and Mesa for best Wayland experience. Especially speaking of playing games, I periodically see newcomer Linux gamers hitting problems due to Mint being outdated and not having good Wayland support. Especially for any kind of recent hardware.

Any examples of “something with recent kde”? I have Ubuntu currently, wanted to switch to the Mint, now want to hear more opinions

Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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Post by yehat »

Esophagus4 wrote: post #59
reddalo wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree, nowadays Linux seems like the only reliable solution. Even macOS, with the latest "liquid glass" update, feels like a toy for kids. I just wish the Affinity suite would be available for Linux too.

Having run Linux every day, I can say we’re in trouble if that is the reliable option :) (Agree that Liquid Glass is miserable, though.)

Seriously, such remarks add nothing except exposing intended bias. In other words that's called a trolling.
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